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Old 09-09-2010, 10:23 AM
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“Avatar” Sequels Could Be Less Violent, Influenced by South American Tribe > Spout

I first found a smaller mention of this, so I had another look and found that... I really hope the sequel doesn't lose that epicness of the first... - I don't know, I guess I can see where he's coming from, but I really will not be happy if it's just the Na'vi and Selfridge sitting in a room talking for 2 hours
Yes, I want to see more of Pandora, more of the Na'vi,of the creatures of Pandora... But it will be empty without killing those ayskxawng tawtute

Also, from a more practical point of view, I think that really, talking rarely actually resolves much, especially when one side has a lot more to gain than the other, and standing up for what you want to protect is a very important message...
I get how the Na'vi are based on humans in that way, but really, I can't honestly say they are completely the same. Just because there are obvious parallels doesn't mean they need to be a direct copy (isn't that the basis of a lot of idiots who dislike Avatar based on that anyway?)

I don't know, I kind of wish I hadn't seen this article really... I guess that if I hadn't, I wouldn't have noticed the lack of action in the sequel like that, but now it makes me worry

I trust JC, but I hope he knows what he is doing... - I'm sure Avatar 2 will be fine, but I hope he doesn't overdo it just for the sake of that...

This comment says it perfectly:
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The woman at the end of the first video said that there should be “un otro mensaje despues de ese,” meaning “another message after this one.” This is quite different from what numerous other sites reported, quoting her as saying that it needs a “better message.” Those sites need a better message; they’re throwing out some serious misinformation. It’s important to the current cross-cultural dialogue to look carefully and literally at how a people group like this would respond, and saying that the film needs “a better message” is a very different thing from saying that there needs to be “another message after this one.” It’s cool that they enjoyed the film and felt that it left an impact, but also recognize the need for a follow up because of the destruction that occurred. Funny how the sites reporting on this story neglected to mention the overall favorable reaction to the film.

In conclusion, my only straight up disagreement with what the last woman said was that Avatar showed no dialogue between the opposing forces. The protagonist forces stuck in the middle of the fight (Grace, Jake, other scientists) attempted dialogue, but the antagonist forces would not hear it. The movie shows the negative impact of what happens when we has humans refuse to engage in dialogue and hear the pleas of people groups that are being trod upon. The fight happens as a result of the brutish greed of the antagonist forces, and it also happens to make an entertaining movie with a good build. As terrible as war in the real world is, I couldn’t imagine Avatar without that last fight—because it’s a story, a movie. What is physical violence in the movie can actually represent the importance of a different kind of “fight” in the real world. It is important not to overlook that kind of symbolism.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:30 AM
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[10:27 am] <@HumanNoMore> I know...
[10:27 am] <@HumanNoMore> Avatar 2: Watch Jake, Neytiri and Mo'at sit in a room talking to Selfridge for 2 hours!
[10:27 am] <@HumanNoMore> then they agree to let the RDA mine some places and gradually lose what makes them unique
[10:28 am] <@Thorinair> lol
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:17 AM
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:11 PM
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Avatar shouldn't be a mirror of real life...
I know I'll watch the sequel regardless, but I'm not sure if it will be as good now. When you're making an amazing film, it needs to have that epicness, which I don't see how it will get now...
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Skimmed through the article and some of the clips, and... just... wow.

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“In this movie, they solved their problems by fighting. We are not afraid to fight, but we have decided to try to solve our problems through dialogue. So this movie needs a better message.”
The movie's not about you, sorry.
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Well it's only one article I doubt it will be less Epic,

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Well it's only one article I doubt it will be less Epic,
James Cameron talks 'Avatar' sequel, the evolution of 3D, and respect for his geeks | EW.com
What I originally saw, I tried to convince myself that was only a small mention and that it wouldn't really do much, but I don't know

Also sucks because before, he said that the sequel would have a lot more about fighting the humans

I don't want to see them sitting down in some room and talking... Realistically, there would be nothing to gain by doing so anyway
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we really should trust that guy, after all he have few sequel on his acc, and come on it's his favorite universe, his baby .... i bet 10 l of Neytirijuice he will take care about his greatest 'creation' and we will eventually see most epic movie of all time (in same lvl or better as av 1 ),
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Tbh, I found the ending fight forced, and, not very, good... I sometimes just skip over it. Seen one fight, seen em all.


You dont need two sides slaughtering each other to achieve epic.
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No!!!

I want to see more badass creatures smashin' stuff!!!

This movie isn't about those tribes; it's message relates to them, but this is entertainment, people want to see these kinds of things because this is what really motivates them and makes them decide to do their own things to help out with issues like these.

Some of the best parts of the first movie were during the fight scenes.....it would be a big mistake for Cameron to do this.
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Movies that are run through on the weight of explosions annoy me. I'd rather think.
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No!!!

I want to see more badass creatures smashin' stuff!!!

This movie isn't about those tribes; it's message relates to them, but this is entertainment, people want to see these kinds of things because this is what really motivates them and makes them decide to do their own things to help out with issues like these.

Some of the best parts of the first movie were during the fight scenes.....it would be a big mistake for Cameron to do this.
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Movies that are run through on the weight of explosions annoy me. I'd rather think.
I agree with you, for movies run on extraneous action for the sake of it... but not on ones which have it well done, as part of the storyline, and include other elements too.
Truthfully, I'd much rather have too much than none anyway.

I'm worried about Avatar 2... This sucks, I'm going to be worrying for the next 4 years now
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Cameron knows exactly why Avatar was such a huge success around the world and why it affected many people's lives, so I'm sure he will take these things into consideration while he works on the sequel.

The more time spent on the sequel, the more time Jim has to change things and perfect it. He did it with the first movie, and I'm sure he'll do it with the second as well.
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I'm sure JC won't sell out or anything. I mean, as read in previous interviews, he was in tears about the film because he didn't think it was good enough; He couldn't feel it. I don't think he'll shoot for anything less with the sequels... Even if there is less violence and action, it will still be immensely entertaining and touch our hearts.

However, I don't really think he'll go with less action than we saw for the first film.
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