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Old 07-11-2017, 10:30 PM
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so far i've been unable to acquire a hoodie, as it's not available for order through disney's online store

BUT i have found a blog post with a BUTT TON of pictures of all the merchandise, including SO MANY PLUSHIES I WANT THEM.
now i want a banshee plushie it'd look so cute next to my faerie dragon plushie
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:16 PM
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Have any of you seen this?

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Old 07-21-2017, 02:55 PM
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A short video of the animatronics behind the Na'vi at the park.





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Damn! Look at the queues at the park :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtS82lWU8bk

(skip to 1:47 if lazy)
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:50 AM
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"Disney and Lightstorm decided to set the land's timeline a generation after the warring conflict between the indigenous Na'vi and the Resources Development Administration (RDA) that sought to exploit Pandora for its unobtanium in the first film. According to the backstory, the Na'vi and humans have achieved peace and Alpha Centauri Expeditions (ACE)–a fictional tourism company–has partnered with the Na'vi to present Pandora as a new destination for ecotourism and scientific research."

Did they just spoil the ending to the entire trilogy or whatever? lol
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Did they just spoil the ending
No. This is approximately 100 years after everything in the films is already over.

About the outcome itself? Inevitability.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:45 PM
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i don't understand how a bunch of skypeople eco-tourists is a viable solution with the Na'vi and Pandora, even a 100 years after a lasting end to hostilities. has no one learned the lessons of Mount Everest and it's 65 tons of TRASH left by climbing tourists? and that's just Everest itself, there are climbers on all the accessible mountains of the Himilayas range and the high-altitude areas of Nepal, are covered with trash too. disgusting. two-legged human roaches ALWAYS bring trash and leave it.


i want skypeople off Pandora forever. we have no business in paradise at all. we don't coexist. period.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:24 PM
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I think the point is that hopefully humanity will learn its lesson and be able to co-exist and become better people( in the case of this universe, with the help of the people) and Disney had to "find" a way so that people can come visit Pandora, so I will admit it's not perfect, but I am glad there is a way for people to "visit" pandora if they want to. I know that sadly it seems that right now though, humanity may never learn its lessons until its too late, but we have to keep trying. I'm excited to get to support Avatar/pandora here in a few weeks So'ha!
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i don't understand how a bunch of skypeople eco-tourists is a viable solution with the Na'vi and Pandora, even a 100 years after a lasting end to hostilities. has no one learned the lessons of Mount Everest and it's 65 tons of TRASH left by climbing tourists? and that's just Everest itself, there are climbers on all the accessible mountains of the Himilayas range and the high-altitude areas of Nepal, are covered with trash too. disgusting. two-legged human roaches ALWAYS bring trash and leave it.
Indeed. See also the Reddit thread about people throwing coins into bodies of water and my comment that it would continue to be an issue in real life.

On the flip side in the postwar canon - ACE controls the sole means of transport to Pandora for purposes of tourism which would clamp down much of the potential impact, and the vast majority of the tourism and thus the litter issue is limited to the confines of the valley of Mo'ara where ACE staff keep it under control. Well; outside of banshee tours, and everyone drives avatars in that case and never has a chance to carry trash any farther than a link room.

As to the idea of the human presence or the PRF/PCI/ACE bloc itself being so inevitably deleterious, these entities are mainly the work of skypeople who can See, are they not. PCI in particular exists solely to conduct remediation projects and clean up RDA impact sites, and all operate with local clans' approval and oversight. They might not be total zero-impact presences on Pandora, but their impact cannot be anything worse than the alternative of leaving RDA's toxic legacy unmitigated. Given that humans created that impact and thus best know what hazards, substances, etc. are involved and how to mitigate them, it is their duty to clean it up.
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i don't understand how a bunch of skypeople eco-tourists is a viable solution with the Na'vi and Pandora, even a 100 years after a lasting end to hostilities. has no one learned the lessons of Mount Everest and it's 65 tons of TRASH left by climbing tourists? and that's just Everest itself, there are climbers on all the accessible mountains of the Himilayas range and the high-altitude areas of Nepal, are covered with trash too. disgusting. two-legged human roaches ALWAYS bring trash and leave it.


i want skypeople off Pandora forever. we have no business in paradise at all. we don't coexist. period.
Wow, talk about xenophobic. lol
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:25 AM
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Wow, talk about xenophobic. lol


wow, clearly your cup is full. smh.
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I think the point is that hopefully humanity will learn its lesson and be able to co-exist and become better people( in the case of this universe, with the help of the people) and Disney had to "find" a way so that people can come visit Pandora, so I will admit it's not perfect, but I am glad there is a way for people to "visit" pandora if they want to. I know that sadly it seems that right now though, humanity may never learn its lessons until its too late, but we have to keep trying. I'm excited to get to support Avatar/pandora here in a few weeks So'ha!
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Indeed. See also the Reddit thread about people throwing coins into bodies of water and my comment that it would continue to be an issue in real life.

On the flip side in the postwar canon - ACE controls the sole means of transport to Pandora for purposes of tourism which would clamp down much of the potential impact, and the vast majority of the tourism and thus the litter issue is limited to the confines of the valley of Mo'ara where ACE staff keep it under control. Well; outside of banshee tours, and everyone drives avatars in that case and never has a chance to carry trash any farther than a link room.

As to the idea of the human presence or the PRF/PCI/ACE bloc itself being so inevitably deleterious, these entities are mainly the work of skypeople who can See, are they not. PCI in particular exists solely to conduct remediation projects and clean up RDA impact sites, and all operate with local clans' approval and oversight. They might not be total zero-impact presences on Pandora, but their impact cannot be anything worse than the alternative of leaving RDA's toxic legacy unmitigated. Given that humans created that impact and thus best know what hazards, substances, etc. are involved and how to mitigate them, it is their duty to clean it up.


okay, i can live with the idea of skypeople filling in the strip-mining holes, hauling out rusted equipment from the pits, cleaning up all the oil, used batteries, engine parts, broken tread links, expended and blown-up secops equipment, downed helicopters and wrecked dropships, and hopefully helping to replant all the vegetation and forest clearcutted for the ore removals. i would also like to see the hellsgate complex and refineries demolished, and the land returned to the forest. then they all go home and work that ethic on Mother Nature here. it's a start.
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Old 11-12-2017, 04:28 AM
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i don't understand how a bunch of skypeople eco-tourists is a viable solution with the Na'vi and Pandora, even a 100 years after a lasting end to hostilities. has no one learned the lessons of Mount Everest and it's 65 tons of TRASH left by climbing tourists? and that's just Everest itself, there are climbers on all the accessible mountains of the Himilayas range and the high-altitude areas of Nepal, are covered with trash too. disgusting. two-legged human roaches ALWAYS bring trash and leave it.


i want skypeople off Pandora forever. we have no business in paradise at all. we don't coexist. period.
the everest analogy is actually rly spot on lmao. both everest and pandora are places that will literally kill humans just for being there, and yet people still want to go there and brag to their friends about it.

also does that 65 tonnes include the bodies of climbers who died because that is also definitely a thing on everest and k2
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On the flip side in the postwar canon - ACE controls the sole means of transport to Pandora for purposes of tourism which would clamp down much of the potential impact, and the vast majority of the tourism and thus the litter issue is limited to the confines of the valley of Mo'ara where ACE staff keep it under control. Well; outside of banshee tours, and everyone drives avatars in that case and never has a chance to carry trash any farther than a link room.
On the flip flip side, that opens up potential "future" plot hooks. Classic cyberpunk is full of competing corporations and from what we see of Earth in Avatar it's full classic Cyberpunk. I can easily imagine some other corporation going in on space exploration against ACE or even attacking them on a financial level and acquiring the entire operation. From there the plot basically writes itself, especially if the whole "tourist" aspect is played up. Just imagine a corporation taking full advantage of Pandora and turning it into well...a Disney park (with mining operation on the side). The potential for both satire and criticism of things like cultural appropriation, Indian reservations, and commodification of descent/nature is high.

Throw in one of Jake's grandkids, a human female protagonist, and you've got a solid movie 4/5 soft-sequel-reboot going.
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