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Old 08-07-2017, 08:03 AM
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I think it would be tough for her to come back as an Avatar/Na'vi, but then again who knows what JC has cooked up maybe IF the Avatar body can live without a "soul" in a resting state, maybe Eywa could decide to send her back.
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Old 08-07-2017, 02:05 PM
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I think it would be tough for her to come back as an Avatar/Na'vi, but then again who knows what JC has cooked up maybe IF the Avatar body can live without a "soul" in a resting state, maybe Eywa could decide to send her back.
I respectfully disagree

I think it would kinda defeat the message JC tried to get across with Grace's death; that Eywa is real, there is life after death - and all life is recycled.

It would go against the philosophy of the film that everything is equal and connected - why should Grace get a second chance and no one else? And surely if everything is recycled then Grace is already part of the Pandoran cycle of life. (probably reincarnated as the fly you swatted away this morning or something.... ).

Ya get what I mean?
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:30 AM
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I think it would kinda defeat the message JC tried to get across with Grace's death; that Eywa is real, there is life after death - and all life is recycled.

It would go against the philosophy of the film that everything is equal and connected - why should Grace get a second chance and no one else? And surely if everything is recycled then Grace is already part of the Pandoran cycle of life. (probably reincarnated as the fly you swatted away this morning or something).
Sure, everyone interprets the movie differently, but damn you got a drastically different message/philosophy (regarding Eywa) from the movie than me

" - and all life is recycled" and reincarnation:
I don't agree with that at all.

In Avatar the mind of a Na'vi or animal is preserved after death, not recycled.
If you **** up the ecosystem bad enough, not only Eywa but all the Na'vi ancestors are going to perish and you deny yourself and everyone else a life after death.
That's one of the main reasons why the Na'vi are so eager to fight and "protect the balance of life".

For every single individual, death is a one way ticket to afterlife.
After death, the consciousness of every living being becomes part of the all-embracing bioelectric network that exists like a second layer of life within the plants and their connected roots. There is NO reincarnation into a single plant or animal happening in Avatar, because "everything is connected".
I mean, that's what the Eywa concept is all about!!! (well, for me at least )

Just remember the scene "They live Jake, within Eywa" when Jake hears a lot of different voices when he connects to the network for the first time.


Anyway, Grace is the only possible exception because she has two "compatible" bodies to begin with. (Jake didn't die, so I wouldn't call his transfer a reincarnation.)
If Grace was the first ever "to return from the eye of Eywa" and reincarnate into her second body, why the hell not. Grace is such an important character, her reincarnation would be cool.

We will see if Cameron makes that exception, IMO it won't cause any problems at all.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:33 AM
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I think it would be tough for her to come back as an Avatar/Na'vi, but then again who knows what JC has cooked up maybe IF the Avatar body can live without a "soul" in a resting state, maybe Eywa could decide to send her back.
There was a similar thread on reddit a while ago, I think it would be possible within the movie rules and make for a good plot as well:

Her mind was still intact when it was transferred to Eywa, but there was not enough time to take care of all the little details that were needed to switch bodies (like the autonomic nervous system of her human body). Grace just needs time to regenerate, and in the meantime she will return as a "wise mentor" type of character that will advise Jake whenever he connects to the tree of souls. At some point she will be ready to inhabit her Na'vi body again (that has been preserved in one of the Avatar tanks at the old human base). This will probably happen at the end of the first sequel, similar to Jake's "eyes open" scene.
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