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Old 06-10-2010, 05:58 AM
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lol sure.
i mean, its usually just something i use during mediation, but i do use it outside of that to reach the inner connection between me and the inner soul.. but this doesnt just go with the grass
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:00 AM
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I completely understand Andi.
However if you wanted you can do all that without using substances..but it would take a lot of effort and time..
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:04 AM
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yes i know. although, i am no buddha, and i can not meditate for 42 days straight on only water and little rice pudding..... although, i can for 2 weeks
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:44 AM
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It's good to see that most people here aren't too biased with regards of cannabis. It's hard to get any correct information as lots of it is part of the propaganda machine.

Here's a quote from a website stating scientific facts about cannabis (scientificfactsofpot.com) -

"In the stoner stereotype, pot smokers and dying brain cells go hand in hand. However, new research suggests the situation may be more uplifting than that. A drug that functions as concentrated marijuana does spur neurogenesis, the process by which the brain gives birth to new nerve cells. This very process is also responsible for aleviating anxiety and depression."

"The current debate over medical marijuana hinges on its use as pain medication. But an extract of the plant could one day form the basis of cancer treatments. New findings indicate that Cannabis extracts can shrink brain tumors by blocking the growth of blood vessels that nourish them"

"Although we prefer to vaporize marijuana to get a cleaner hit as well as for the conservation of pot, some people enjoy smoking it out of pipes or rolling joints. The smoke from burning marijuana leaves contains several known carcinogens and the tar it creates contains 50 percent more of some of the chemicals linked to lung cancer than tobacco smoke. A marijuana cigarette also deposits four times as much of that tar as an equivalent tobacco one. Scientists were therefore surprised to learn that a study of more than 2,000 people found no increase in the risk of developing lung cancer for marijuana smokers."

All these statements link to websites of reputable status, so they are not blindly making comments. Hope everyone doesn't mind all the quotes above!
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:06 AM
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nice info, thanks! I might even get a vaporizer
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:26 AM
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As far as I stand, I have never smoked it and never will. I just don't feel the need personally. However, I do not have a problem with other people smoking it, even when i'm in the room (as has happened on a few occasions).

I think the main problem is, as many have said, it used to be a reserved and spiritual experience, however as more people begin to use it recreationally, it completely loses that sense of spirituality that it once had. It now only becomes a tool to forget your problems, it becomes an easy way out for a short amount of time instead of being for connecting to your inner soul. It seems to have lost it's importance and significance and as such is seen as a dirty habit instead of an 'experience'.

I really don't believe it does you any good, just like smoking or drinking heavily don't either, but if someone wants to do damage to themselves, they can be my guest.

(I'm no saint myself, i'm just saying I really don't mind what other people do (To an extent))
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:14 AM
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I have a vaporizer but don't use it that often. It's hard to tell how much your taking in as you just need the tiniest amount. Also, because it's so easy to breathe the vapour, you don't realise how much you have inhaled and you get uber stoned. Suppose I need more practice with it...

I also have bought some mixing herb minus the tobacco/nicotine when I do have a joint instead of the vapouriser which is pretty sweet.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:07 PM
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Some more interesting quotes supporting legalisation of cannabis (from Sky News Website)

The Beckley Foundation's Global Cannabis Commission document said the cannabis ban had backfired and called for a "serious rethink" of drugs policy.

The ban has had little or no impact on supply and has turned users into criminals, it said.

"Although cannabis can have a negative impact on health, including mental health, in terms of relative harms, it is considerably less harmful than alcohol or tobacco," the report claimed.
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:48 PM
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i've only ever had a few puffs but the last time i did i was walking to a set of stairs and everything turned green for about 5 seconds and i could feel myself falling towards the ground, but before i did everything returned to normal. I still havn't got the full expirience of it yet and i'm not eager. But if someone happens to have some then i wouldn't mind taking another hit.

As for medical uses it seems to cure alot of muscle pains and i've also talked to people back in highschool who regularly smoked it. they said it's not addictive like cigarettes. oh well, if you enjoy it then smoke it. if not then don't smoke it
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BTW dont smoke TOOO much or you run the risk of kidney cysts. I saw one preserved at the UNSW medical museum/exhibit and it was (no shiit) the size of a textbook. nasty



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I think the main problem is, as many have said, it used to be a reserved and spiritual experience, however as more people begin to use it recreationally, it completely loses that sense of spirituality that it once had. It now only becomes a tool to forget your problems, it becomes an easy way out for a short amount of time instead of being for connecting to your inner soul. It seems to have lost it's importance and significance and as such is seen as a dirty habit instead of an 'experience'.
Very good point Fkeu'itan. This is also true of other drugs and mushrooms that have been used for specific religious ceremonies and have fallen into recreational use. The other problem is that whereas in the religious use, the drug is mostly used in its natural form or as a tea but the recreational ones are not in their natural state. I am thinking in particular, cocaine or heroin. These drugs have been altered to increase potency. So, a drug that in its natural state might give you a buzz while participating in a religious ceremony then used for recreational use with increased potency has the potential to cause very serious harm.
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ehh, thanks for the pictures and it's true weed can get a bit tricky sometimes, when I was smoking skunk for the first time, it was wild at first we didn't feel how strong it was so we had this massive joint all beginning to laugh like "hahaha man, what you're lookin at... no what you're lookin at..." 5 minutes later I felt like I couldn't change direction when walking and had the most insane "framerate drop", I was literally seeing everything in still pictures ranging in 1-2 per second. 10 minutes later I felt like everything I see is a dream, it was like flying through reality. It was the biggest blast I ever had from smoking pot lol.
Anyway if you're gonna smoke pot, make sure you already ate something that day.
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:35 PM
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Has anyone had closed eyed visuals when smoking weed? I have and it is mental, just so many thoughts and pictures flashing in front of your closed eyes. One of the best things I have experienced was SEEING SOUND. I was laid in my room listening to a band called Astra (great when stoned) with the lights off on my own with candles lit and I closed my eyes and actually SAW the music. It was like watching an EQ and every note was symbolised in a colourful movement. Pretty monumental stuff
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lol i haven't seen sound, but i had tasted it once when i did acid
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