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Old 08-05-2010, 09:14 PM
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So what do you think? As human beings, are we supposed to live in harmony with nature and the planet, to live simply and take only what we really need? Or are we supposed to shamelessly exploit the resources available to us in order to endlessly 'progress' as a race?

Would just like to hear some thoughts on this. I'll say my own piece in time.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:47 PM
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Well obviously without an outside force making us stay static, we're going to grow and develop naturally. Which is what happened.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:38 PM
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We weren't 'meant' to be anything... We SHOULD have lived closely to nature as everything else does, but we just didn't.
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Why should we have?

Whats the point of simply existing?
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:42 PM
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Really complicated question. I don't know if I can say anything smart on this issue. Though I think that in this present day and age it is only becoming more and more important to live in harmony with the planet.

At some point in time, humans decided to abandon that harmony and start using natural resources. I have to wonder, when was it? Why did we create an alternative to this harmony for the first time? Why were we suddenly able to step outside the intricate web of life? There can't have been no reason at all, can there...?

If anything positive can come from having negatively exploited the planet's resources so far, it's that we now have a chance to learn from our mistakes. Should humanity choose to 'progress' itself further, we can plan ways to do it without harming the biosphere.

I feel like I'm rambling here, so I'll stop for now. :|
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What does it mean to live in harmony with nature?
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Really complicated question. I don't know if I can say anything smart on this issue. Though I think that in this present day and age it is only becoming more and more important to live in harmony with the planet.

At some point in time, humans decided to abandon that harmony and start using natural resources. I have to wonder, when was it? Why did we create an alternative to this harmony for the first time? Why were we suddenly able to step outside the intricate web of life? There can't have been no reason at all, can there...?

If anything positive can come from having negatively exploited the planet's resources so far, it's that we now have a chance to learn from our mistakes. Should humanity choose to 'progress' itself further, we can plan ways to do it without harming the biosphere.

I feel like I'm rambling here, so I'll stop for now. :|
We've never lived in harmony with nature. Ever. It may have seemed as though we did at times, but no matter what, we will not be contained. We'll expand, grow, and learn.
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Why should we have?

Whats the point of simply existing?
Because as it is, all we've achieved is to possibly bring about our own extinction.
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Because as it is, all we've achieved is to possibly bring about our own extinction.


tbh, rather be extinct and lived than just sitting there.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:54 AM
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Ironic, because by the vary nature of extinction, it's not like we would be remembered.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:57 AM
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Our technology will outlast us. Somebody somewhere will discover it.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:24 PM
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You'd be surprised. A thousand years or so and there would be little to no trace of civilisation, even orbiting debris will have deorbited by then. Ironically, the most obvious traces would remain on the moon and Mars.
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We have bunkers filled with our knowledge secured already. Ever hear of the Rosetta project? Micro disks with Genesis etched into them in thousands of languages, all safe and secure in case of disaster. Even if we die, our legacy will remain.
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Well, what about the people who...you know...don't want to die in some humanity-induced armageddon?
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Well, in that case we turn to these guys.

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