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Old 09-14-2010, 07:39 PM
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Just watched "Last of the Mohicans", and had the same feeling I had with Avatar: that something was clearly not right here. See, the Native Americans live "beholden to none; not by another's leave"; as the Na'vi do: it's a life of simplicity, a life of utter freedom.

Not that I defend the "good savage" myth, but I think that comparing their lives as they were, and ours; there's something missing.

So what could have gone wrong is what I ask. Since we no longer have tyrannical kings ruling, most of us will turn our heads to the mindless buying and wish to earn and have more and more and more; to the ads, to the supermarkets -but eventually, we all turn our heads to the corporations and the system that permits this actions.


For those who will argue that "stop there, capitalism works fine and better than the alternative: communism", I have two things to reply back:
  • First, communism is not the only alternative, neither it is the antagonist and the only option left for a non-capitalistic society.
  • Second, that the financial system we're being subjects of right now is not capitalism: it's a distortion of it. Just like communism turned into dictatorships and other totalitarian systems such as Stalinism or Maoism; capitalism has turned into consumerism.

The ideas capitalism defends are good and are meant to permit free trade of goods and services, to create wealth from the individual interest without harming the common, through competitiveness.

However, just like the communist ideals have nothing to do with the reality they produced, so do the capitalist ones. It's the people who distort the ideas and transform them into what they please, for their own benefit. Stalin put Soviet Russia at his service and the companies and corporations -so the argument runs- put Earth at their service.


What was thought as a system that allowed individual freedom, ended up being a system that allowed freedom at the expense of the others'. The base of such power was money, and it worked since the authority of the rich is for the poor -or anyone else who needs money, since nowadays it's the only means to live by.

For this situation, I have no solutions to show you, true. All I have done was stating the flaws of the world we live in.

But please I ask you to consider why you defend the ideas you defend; and don't follow them blindly to the point of not seeing the harm they can do, or already have done.

On a side note... I miss simple things, and I wish not having to write any of this.

And yes -I'd like the alternative I mentioned above to be a tribal society -but being realistic, and sadly, it's not possible anymore.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:49 PM
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Capitalism and communism are equally flawed, yet I still know which one I'd rather live under.

I know that the ideal society would be neither, but that's a very difficult goal to realise
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:12 PM
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I've used Communism for additional support and contrast; but please, let's not make of this a Cold War discussion.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:48 PM
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Have you got an alternative? I've given up on fighting the system. I might even start my own corporation one day. But I have goals and dreams, the exclusive way to meet those is to acquire wealth. Which is exactly what I'm going to do.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:04 AM
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It's always easier to follow the path the rest walks down, and considering you are not even older than me ( a month's difference) -honestly, you've given up fairly too soon; but heck, I'm nobody to judge what you do with your life.

I've got my plans if you're wondering, though they're at the moment nothing but rough work.
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:35 AM
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Just some input not related, that movie was filmed where I live...
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