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Republicans. **** you. I quit, enjoy your debt and delusions.
ThinkProgress This is the last straw. I now declare America deceased.
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Gah, I'm so sorry.
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That's so horrible..
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This is why I like animals so much. With them, the only crap you have to put up with with is literal.
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I'm sorry... last I checked, killing babies for the sake of rapists was considered an idiotic thing to do. How exactly is aborting an unwanted child somehow "justified" because it was conceived through rape? It's a child, regardless. Does the child get to choose how or why it was conceived?
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And thank you for being so utterly inconsiderate towards women and girls who suffer the trauma of rape. But, hey, at least I know you don't support my right to my own body! (But please, please tell me that you at least support universal health-care so the mother doesn't have to bear the financial burden of a child you won't let her abort when still not yet a person. And please tell me you are also in favour of paid maternity leave, and improved adoption and child services, so if she chooses to give the child up because she is unable - emotionally or otherwise - to care of for it, it's not going to be bounced from foster home to foster home. Please tell me this, because then I at least understand somewhere where you are coming from, beyond holding up a collection of cells as being more important than a living, breathing girl or woman. Of course, if you are in favour of, say, eleven-year-old children being forced to give birth - which has happened - I've got nothing more to say to you on this topic)
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I detect... ill.
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Yes Ashen Key, I know what it feels like to personally sit up all night with those who've gone through circumstances where abortions, in almost every single case, were coerced by either the parents, peers, or the abortionist when in doubt in the final hour. I've experienced the first-hand stories of those who were raped (yes, raped), and later deeply regretted what they did to themselves and their babies after going through an abortion. Yes Ashen, I've gone through what no person should go through concerning counseling of others in such pitiful situations, where they wish they could go back in time and reverse their irreversible decision. You have no idea what it's like to go through such pain, Ashen. No idea. Sometimes I wish I could erase my memory for all the terrible things I've heard such things in this subject. Do you know what it's like to actually be able to feel the small baby scrambling and writhing inside you while it's slowly cut up into pieces at only weeks old? or experiencing the trauma afterward, of watching the pieces being sucked out of you? or how many times I've heard respectable doctors say how it is indeed dangerous at times in the abortion clinic? I can't even begin to imagine what it must feel like to be in any of these women's places. You insult my intelligence by assuming I'm some sort of "crazy, conservative, 'screw-the-mother'" type who has no care for anything but his own personal motivation to uphold some "faulty" principle that has no meaning except to those who have no clue about the real world. You may not have said it, but I can sense it. You read an article about a mother who wants to abort a baby because she was raped, and you automatically think it's wrong to prevent such a thing from happening because you think the mother, who's in absolutely no physical danger whatsoever, somehow has a right to dispose of the unwanted even when it's been shown by many sources I've read to be an obvious child that lives inside the mother? I don't know how many secular, nonsensical articles you've read about some "right to choice" that the mother has to declare, "I'm my own woman," but you're mistaken to think that this is a subject that has been hammered down as "fully addressed." It's ironic to note how every mother who claims "right to choice" was never chosen to be arborted, and considering how the child has no choice at all. That's blind, sickening, sexist-feminist hogwash if I ever heard any. Don't you ever, ever presume to know my intentions about such a sensitive subject again when you haven't the first clue about what you're talking about. Do you hear me? I have nothing more to add. |
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I apologize for insulting you, quite sincerely.
But I will not, and never will, apologize for my position on woman's rights and a woman's right to chose to take what control she can over her own body and her own life. So, yes, I do believe on this we have nothing further to say to each other.
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they could use the foetus' for their stem cells
*is it spelt fetus or foetus? anyway, its a waste of a dying fetus. why not use one life to possibly save many
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If yes, be my guest good sir, if not, shut the **** up because odds are, you will never suffer rape. Not only is this an assault on women's rights, it a blatant attack on the separation of church and state.
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Join the club, Isard.
Next stop, the United States of Canada. I would be moving to Italy if 'ol Silvio wasn't such an asshat.
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Regardless of what his reasons are, there are other reasons for thinking abortions are immoral than just religion. For example, my philosophy professor from last semester was not religious but held the belief that abortion was wrong on other moral grounds.
I'm not really trying to say anything specific here, because I know religion is obviously the most cited reason, but I just wanted to point that out. And I guess this just comes down to if you think abortion is murder. If yes, then since I don't like killing anyone, I'd rather not. If no then personal rights all the way. And again, that's probably more of a philosophical question than anything else. Personally I don't think it's murder so I don't think abortions should be illegal, but hey I know smart, sane people who disagree for legitimate reasons. I guess I'm trying to say that the "other side" isn't necessarily as stupid as you'd like to think they are, even if certain people in the groups are.
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