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Old 03-17-2010, 05:26 AM
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I originally posted this elsewhere. Just posting it here to raise awareness too.

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/rp...ppalachia.html

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That's because the plot of the movie essentially mirrors the tragedy that is unfolding in Appalachia today. In the film, a rapacious mining company invades the lush, biodiverse planet of Pandora to extract a mysterious black energy rock they call "unobtainium." The company, backed by a powerful army, will stop at nothing to get this resource -- and the planet's residents pay the price in terms of rampant destruction of their homeland.
You could say the same about the folks in Appalachia, who now suffer the consequences of the world's worst coal mining: mountaintop removal.
There are a couple of other related links in the articles:
http://trueslant.com/johnmcquaid/201...ar-no-fantasy/
http://www.nrdc.org/energy/coal/mtr/

The pictures are really depressing.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:36 AM
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I've known about, and even seen firsthand, mountaintop removal mining for years. It's yet another in a depressingly long line of horrible things we do to our planet every day. How these things are allowed to take place is beyond belief.
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oh my god can't believe that's happening
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I hadn't even heard of this
There are just so many things going on in the world, I think it's impossible to know every one of them... And so many, like this, are just terrible.
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I've known about, and even seen firsthand, mountaintop removal mining for years. It's yet another in a depressingly long line of horrible things we do to our planet every day. How these things are allowed to take place is beyond belief.
The mountains are full of coal.

Coal = electricity = $$$

Do you know where your electricity comes from?
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Actually, yes. The electricity I use comes from clean nuclear energy. Coal is essentially obsolete.
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uhm...I live in the appalachia mountains and ive never seen this anywhere....
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uhm...I live in the appalachia mountains and ive never seen this anywhere....
Living near the appalachia does not equal living in them...
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Actually, yes. The electricity I use comes from clean nuclear energy. Coal is essentially obsolete.
Except for radioactive waste... but all in all fossil fuels are worse.
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Actually, yes. The electricity I use comes from clean nuclear energy. Coal is essentially obsolete.
Except for radioactive waste... but all in all fossil fuels are worse.
Both are not right, but coal mining is seriously horrible. Here in Germany they did this: Brown Coal open pit mining and destroy whole villages. It is stopping now that imports are cheaper, but still some is going on. Leaves acid lakes behind.
But nuclear fission - seriously - there are tons of radiactive waste in train cars, they get carried to Russia and stored there in a warehouse or it gets buried in leaky salt mines (I shamefully admit that the research institute I work for now participated in that in the past). Or Plants blow up resulting in people here not beeing allowed to collect mushrooms anymore and hunters are advised not to eat wild meat too much - and Chernobyl was not really in the direct neighborhood. If the wildfires reach the nuclear facilities they are heading for in Russia now, I actually get a bit scared again. Besides - Uranium mining is not so great either

The only power source I have not heard too much bad about is solar, especially solar thermal electricity - and maybe geothermal if it is naturally occuring (and does not require fracking). But that also takes a lot of energy to build and maintain.

The best option is to reduce energy usage - there is a lot of potential. But then of course people want to have air conditioning instead of fans and laundry dryers instead of laundry ropes and they want up to date gadgets that cost more energy to produce than a family can use in days (calculating all the resources and energies for a TV or PC for Example). Reduced consumption of energy and resources and products is required, but of course in the dominant economic system this is not desired as it is based on consumption.
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Does anyone know where specifically on ridge this is?
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There is a map of coal mines and associated article: Coal Controversy In Appalachia : Feature Articles (more pictures of mountain top removal, maps of the affected regions and prospective claims. And yes - it is not just a small locality - the map shows there are really large areas affected directly - and obvioulsy downstream valleys are affected, too)
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