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Old 08-05-2011, 12:04 AM
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Aurora missed the problems indigenous people are confronting in my country: Evo Morales is trying to build a road to connect the cities of Cochabamba (through Villa Tunari) and Trinidad (Beni, trough San Ignacio de Moxos) that goes trough the TIPNIS (Territorio Indígena del Parque Isiboro Sécure). The problem began after the Planification branch of Morales' government proposed to build a road to connect the aforementioned cities ignoring numerous observations to the project made by members of the government opposition, being the principal the projected route of the road. As is planned, the second phase of the road would go through approximately 60 km of pristine tropical forest and through, protected by Law, Indigenous territories of Yuracaré, Moxeño and Chimane tribes. According to research made by local press, about half a million trees would need to be cut to make just enough space to build the road. The indigenous leaders of the mentioned tribes are opposing this project and are planning a protest march to La Paz (starting August 15th) to stop the government plans. However, Morales, in a meeting of his fellow union men at Villa Tunari, said last saturday "Those who oppose the construction of this road are traitors!" (obviously referring to the tribes' leaders). "They are financed by the Conservative Right politicians of this country, the Press and some NGOs that do not want the progress to come here". In an even more outrageous manner he said "all men here should court the women of the tribes to convince them about the construction of the road" (you need some translation). At the end of his meeting he said "this road will go on, yes or yes". After the protests of the indigenous leaders and media coverage, the Brazilian government suspended the funding for the construction of the road, but our vicepresident has just said that the road will go on as planned.

A meeting has been scheduled between the Government Minister and the leaders of TIPNIS that will take place next Tuesday.
This is today's comic strip of a La Paz newspaper (La Prensa):
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:30 AM
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So much for Morales' pro-environmental governance. But hey, since when has a politician ever been honest? And isn't he indigenous himself? Talk about losing touch with your roots. Been hanging around too long with the business fat cats, me thinks... Such a shame, too. He seemed like he had a lot of potential.

And it's interesting that he tries to claim the environmentalists and those in favor of tribal sovereignty are right wingers. Here in the US they're cast as the liberals.

And I like that comic. Very well done...
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People always associate people they oppose with whichever side they aren't on.

Anyway, on topic: Is there anything that can be done? Anywhere to send emails, any petitions?
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:43 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, applejuice. Indeed I missed that one. Cannot have my eyes everywhere
Sounds horrible really. Not so much of a big surprise about Morales really. I liked the spirit of the "Law of Mother Nature" thing, but obviously something like this could never enter real politics. "Not in this economy"...
Interesting that Avatar starts to become a meme in respect of indigenous struggle and appears in comic strips and on protest marches. Way to go.

And it is sad to feel helpless here, indeed. I dont belive much in petitions and such, as you know, but still I always participate if they are there.

I found a German one: https://www.regenwald.org/mailalert/...e-im-regenwald - and more text in english on the issue: Bolivia: New Road Threatens Indigenous Territory of Isiboro Sécure
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Today, one of the most prestigious radios in the country informed that the Brazilian consortium in charge of building the road, has started to clear the zone from trees.
Morales' government has shown to be really intransigent in matters like this. There's little to do, unless massive support from city people. He took a step back on his decision to elevate gasoline prices last December but only because the entire country was preparing a rebellion.
For now, we will wait until Tuesday, then we will see what we should do.
As a side note, Morales has always been like that, his image of a humble indigenous is just a fabrication of his Cuban-Venezuelan advisers. His only interest is coca and more coca.
EDIT: The national road administration has just stated that the road will be built, no matter if there's opposition. I can tell why there is such interest in building the road: Cocaine, but that's another topic.
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This seems to be the trend in all of SA.

Indigenous resistance is the new 'terrorism' - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
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No negotiations took place today, the indigenous leaders will go on with the planned march to La Paz next week. Government said that negotiations won't be binding regarding the construction of the road.
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So I guess that comic strip really hits it, huh? In the end its the same story "if people sit on **** they want,...." - meh and I see what will happen again - people will do protest marches, petitions and all that and they just go ahead as they already said they will and then they will not understand why in the end things are set on fire
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The sad thing is that the projected road is superfluous. There's no industry there. Opposition presented a project in which the road would go around the park and not through it, but it was not taken seriously by the government. There is a quite frightening interest behind this particular road: it seems that our government is going to raise the allowed Coca plantations and the road would be perfect for new settlers to invade those lands and plant more coca. The road would, practically, allow them to sell Coca to drug dealers operating in Brazil in record time. It is, certainly, a true Rodovia da cocaina.
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I'm seriously losing self control over this stuff.

If I had the means, I would probably fly there and kill as many of those people as I could.

I've had it.

Someone has to stand up for them, and if no one else will, then what hope is there?
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Indeed, Raiden...

And I dont give a **** if the road is being built for coca, for industry, for logging, farming, mining, ... it should not go there, and it will bring ALL of these things with it once access is there. That is what roads do - they give people cheap and easy access to do whatever... build some farms, houses, maybe cut down a couple of trees more... Over and over roads have ben proven to be the driving force of leading destruction into remote areas.
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Recent declarations of indigenous leaders have revealed that several communities inside Tipnis have been threatened by Chapare settlers (or cocaleros, people that make business of the mentioned plant), to use brute force if they were still willing to oppose the projected road. "The march will go on. then, when we arrive to La Paz, we will speak to the president directly" the leader of the Tipnis communities has said.
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It's times like this when I wish the mecha in my sig was a real thing and not fictional.

I'd head straight there and carry those people to the city safely if I had to.

And then I'd unload all my ammo on the logging machinery and all the rest of those heartless idiots.
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It's times like this when I wish the mecha in my sig was a real thing and not fictional.

I'd head straight there and carry those people to the city safely if I had to.

And then I'd unload all my ammo on the logging machinery and all the rest of those heartless idiots.
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The march has begun. BBC has an article about it.
True to his style, Morales has blamed the "extreme right" and USAID as the causes behind the protest. Returning from China he stated "I want to say, I hope that there are no NGOs financing the opposition (yes, he really speaks that bad Spanish) to the policy of integrating Bolivia. The day we learn that, we will see the way of stopping this kind of conspiracy by the NGOs. It may be that USAID is there, we will what we do with USAID" (Sorry for the rough translation, it is really difficult to accurately translate any of his sayings).
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