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World headed for irreversible climate change in five years, IEA warns | Environment | The Guardian
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"We" have waited way way too long to get on the right track. I feel very sad and depressed if I read this. And it comes from the IEA - not Greenpeace, the green party, the Sierra club or even just the social democratic parties - from the International Energy Agency - a conservative and economics oriented global organization:Quote:
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We may be in trouble if something happens depending on our hypothetical actions.
Confidence.
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^Amen to that. "Should'a, would'a, could'a are the last words of a fool." I see that we're not completely destined for it yet, but somethig tells me with an attitude that we have 'just a little bit longer', the human race is going to become flippant and procrastinate on this issue, simply because it's easier not to do anything, and when it comes to that final year we'll be wishing we had done more before.
That said, climate change is a difficult issue. Geologically, we are still in the throws of an ice age. We know that this planet is not supposed to have ice caps, and occasions where they still existed, and the temperature was constant between ice ages is extremely rare. It would seem that the ice melting and the climate changing is simply a part of this planet's natural cycle and progression. However, I do not in any way claim that as a justification for what we do to our planet, and what we do sure as hell doesn't help with the nature of our planet. Just because it may be natural for the ice to melt, does not mean we should be driving round in colossal cars, burning all the oil or cutting down swathes of forest or dumping radioactive material and god knows how many tons of rubbish onto the lands and the seas.
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This is somewhat sensationalist. Look at what the reasoning is:
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(Note to mention ignoring the possibility of reversing it.) Last edited by Clarke; 11-20-2011 at 05:35 PM. |
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The uncertainty, the ifs and whens there are not about if of when the problem will occur in case we do something stupid, it is about if we can summon up the effort to avert the problme which will occur with a certainty if nothing is done. And presently, nothing is done. And as the article says, the UK, Japan and others actually do not want to even talk about this before that deadline runs out. Thats seriously foolish.
The song linked - very fitting indeed.
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No, the problem is a government structured in a way that promotes selfish thinking. Even if you had a sizeable chunk of [insert country] supporting you, if the government doesn't site with you, you can't do much.
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All the nimbyism regarding solutions to the problem is what is endangering the world. Without that, there would not be any new coal/oil power stations built and even the ability to shut extant ones down before the end of their operational life (something this prediction does not talk about). Exactly. Oil was going to run out in the It's called a political agenda.
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If we don't shift the Earths orbit we might collide with an asteroid.
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I'm talking about something that we've actually caused, Isard.
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