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Nice too see your commentaries in one place. Well worth the read for anyone interested in Neytiri.
Thanks, neytirifanboy. It's good to see you on this forum.
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That was one great article. Ive found, it is hard to put alot of my feelings for Neytiri into words, but you just did for me, im speechless =]
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Thanks, Changed4life. I appreciate the kind words.
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Finally was able to sit down today and read the entire commentary. Neytiri_Quest, you certainly issue some great points.
Neytiri is like no other. She has heightened the standards of women - no, she's thrown my standards of women out the window.
Being able to sit down and read a commentary from someone whom I share the same ideals with was very refreshing.
As you already know, your talent for writing is absolutely stellar.
For that, I sincerely thank you for taking the time to write this commentary. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

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Finally was able to sit down today and read the entire commentary. Neytiri_Quest, you certainly issue some great points.
Neytiri is like no other. She has heightened the standards of women - no, she's thrown my standards of women out the window.
Being able to sit down and read a commentary from someone whom I share the same ideals with was very refreshing.
As you already know, your talent for writing is absolutely stellar.
For that, I sincerely thank you for taking the time to write this commentary. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

Oel ngati kameie ma tsmukan. Eywa ngahu.
Thanks, Hunter of the Glade. I certainly appreciate the kind words. And just as a rare blue diamond has many facets reflecting it's beauty and brilliance, each of the commentaries is an attempt to show a different aspect of Neytiri's personality and spirit, and was written for people like you.
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Old 04-24-2011, 04:50 PM
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Funny...I actually saw that rare blue diamond in person not too long ago, and I felt my memory jog.

"Why does this seem so familiar?...

...oh yeah - 'Why We Love Neytiri,' that's why!"

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Neytiri is like nobody else, and that is why we love her. She showed me a different way, really, a reason to care about anything.
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Thanks, Hunter of the Glade. I certainly appreciate the kind words. And just as a rare blue diamond has many facets reflecting it's beauty and brilliance, each of the commentaries is an attempt to show a different aspect of Neytiri's personality and spirit, and was written for people like you.
No problem. Neytiri is the best blue diamond out there.
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Funny...I actually saw that rare blue diamond in person not too long ago, and I felt my memory jog.

"Why does this seem so familiar?...

...oh yeah - 'Why We Love Neytiri,' that's why!"

A diamond is the choice of every woman as her wedding ring stone (have you ever seen a woman wearing a ruby or emerald wedding ring?). This is because every woman sees a diamond as by far the most perfect and beautiful of jewels. It has a pristine, dazzling, and transcendent quality to it. Add to this the rare and sublime quality of a Navi-blue color and you have a pretty good representation of how most of us on this site view Neytiri.
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:40 AM
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Neytiri is like nobody else, and that is why we love her. She showed me a different way, really, a reason to care about anything.
Well said, Human No More. And this is why you have probably gained as much from the experience of Neytiri as anyone on this list. You have taken what you learned from Neytiri into the world--and have become a better man because of it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:41 PM
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Hello everyone! I've been away for awhile, and am just now catching up on some of the threads. I was inspired to write this for you. As always, this is for you, the Neytiri Clan.

Why We Love Neytiri-Part VII


Many people on this—and other threads in this forum—have made some variation of the statement, "I wish she were real,” with regard to Neytiri. I've smiled at this a little because it never occurred to me that she wasn’t. But before you assume I’ve boarded the bus to Crazy Town, just sit back, relax, and contemplate what I am saying. (And no, I don’t think I’ll be seeing her shopping at the Mall anytime soon, or taking a stroll in the moonlight—though each of those experiences would be nice. )

I’ve been a lucid dreamer since I was a young child. I had an otherwise ‘normal’ childhood, but these intensely powerful and personal dreams largely kept me separate from those around me. If I tried to describe them to my friends or family members, I got strange or uncomfortable looks. They likely either thought I was lying or crazy. So I learned early on to keep them to myself. And thus began my career as a typical ‘Outsider’.

Since I was raised in a Christian household, many of these lucid dreams took on the form and coloring of religious images and feelings. Why? Because this was the only context my consciousness could fit them into at the time. But even then, since they weren’t common experiences, they could not be easily explained or comprehended. The ‘consensus reality’ simply had not created an accommodation for them yet; they were outside of the ordinary stream of reality.

But one thing I was very clear about: these dreams were not only real, but were somehow more real than anything I experienced in my everyday waking consciousness. Some could be defined as lucid dreams; other, more rare ones were what I now define as hyper-conscious dreams, which were transcendent states of awareness accompanied by intense emotional content. And like a computer or peripheral device, these ‘dreams’ configured my life at a very basic level and guided me through life like a pole star guided ancient mariners.

AVATAR, through its amazing technology and fantastic imagery, essentially gave many people a brief taste of a hyper-conscious dream. Since it didn’t fit into the normal slots of everyday consciousness, some who responded to the ‘dream’ of Pandora, Neytiri, the Na’vi, etc. have had difficulty integrating the experience into their lives. As a result, many have experienced PAD—or suffer from what I once termed the 'Neytiri effect' depending on whether the impact of the movie was more general or specific in nature.

In his book, The Varieties of Religious Experience, William James says: “Our normal waking consciousness, rational consciousness as we call it, is but one special type of consciousness, whilst all about it, parted from it by the filmiest of screens, there lie potential forms of consciousness entirely different.”

There are many, many other people out there who say essentially the same thing. Applied to lucid and hyper-conscious dreams, the realization emerges that they are but other forms of consciousness, not invalidated because we can’t bring any solid evidence regarding them to bear or can’t use them to purchase goods in the marketplace. They are simply another type of consciousness, separated from waking consciousness by ‘the filmiest of screens’ as James says.

I would wager that most of the people reading this are also ‘Outsiders’ and ‘dreamers’—creative and highly sensitive individuals who often have difficulty reconciling the so-called ‘real’ world with the rich and beautiful inner landscape hiding just behind their eyes. Many do not understand why they have reacted to AVATAR this way, and think the answer lies is finding an unspoiled planet like Pandora, an innocent, unselfish race like the Na’vi, and a strong and pristine beauty like Neytiri (ladies reading this can substitute Jake ). But for me, I’ve never suffered from PAD. Instead, I’ve had PAI (Post-AVATAR-Inspiration). And PAI is not just the inspiration to make positive changes in my own life and in my corner of the world, but it’s the validation of those powerful dreams I’ve had since childhood.

We’ve all heard about the vastness of the universe. There are over 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone, and at least 200 billions galaxies in a universe billions of light years across. That means there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on every beach, construction site, sand dune, and wind-blown desert in the world. And quantum physics and string theory support the notion there may be an infinite number of universes existing in higher dimensions, intersecting with ours and separated only by the very tiniest of measurements—or ‘the filmiest of screens’.

I suggest there is an equally great, and possibly overlapping, universe we have access to in the place behind our eyes—a rich, largely unexplored interior world that holds even greater promise than the exploration of outer space. Mystics and saints have known of this area for millennia, and tried to describe it to people. But it was difficult because, as I mentioned earlier, there needs to be a context—an accommodation—for understanding experiences and ideas that don’t fit into the normal realms of consciousness and experience.

The inner region I spoke of is often experienced to some extent by young children, but is generally forgotten or left unexplored in civilized people as they mature past that youthful state. However, it was a rich part of the culture of Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, and many other so-called ‘primitive’ indigenous peoples around the world. It’s what the original beatniks and hippies of the 50s and early 60s in America were searching to unfold and understand through creativity, the use of psychedelics and various hallucinogenic plants, and other new and unfettered forms of expression. Unfortunately, the journey into self-awareness initiated by those powerful visionaries and vanguards quickly degenerated into a search for diversions and cheap tricks by the majority of those who followed. That original perception of ‘trailing clouds of glory’ eventually ‘fades into the light of common day’, as poet Wordsworth said. And as Neytiri would say, “This is sad—very sad only.”

And what does this all have to with Neytiri, you ask? Everything. I believe the reason each of us has such a powerful response to her—and Pandora in general—is that she powerfully exists for us in that vast, rich, inner region I alluded to earlier. More than a year after this forum was created we are still singing her praises, lauding her virtues, and lamenting her absence (or that of a Neytiri-like Terran woman) in our lives. This sounds more like the pastime and mania of bubble-gum smacking fans giggling with glee at the latest teen sensation than the behavior of intelligent, sensitive, and creative individuals. But this is happening because each of us, through some event or process in his or her life, has made an accommodation for Neytiri (or Jake) in that largely unexplored region that is growing inside.

In the Bible it says that Adam fell into a deep sleep. But never once does it mention that he woke up. Symbolically, we are all descendants of that initial ‘sleeper’. Most people, however, are still living their lives in that sleep state, going through the motions of living in a largely unconscious state. They are like somnambulists unaware of their actions. They are often like whirling masses of separate wills, unable to feel, unable to See; unable to discern the connectedness between people and things.

But occasionally one of the ‘sleepers’ wakes up, and everything changes; and the life he or she was previously living seems strangely unsatisfying by contrast. Like Jake, the awakened sleeper feels the world they knew before was the dream, and the new world they’ve seen the brief glimpses of is the true reality. It is my contention that after being exposed to the beauty of Pandora in general, and Neytiri in specific, many of us ‘woke’ up.

Most of the time, we are unconsciously moving through that unknown inner region with only a tiny pen-light in our trembling hands, much like explorers moving through a vast forest at night in an unexplored part of the world. It’s a dark and fearful place, with frightening sounds and unfamiliar feelings. We see only a couple of feet in front of us, and fear that danger is lurking around every tree or rock. But imagine what would happen if, suddenly, a burst of lightning flashed overhead… and for a moment, the entire forest was illuminated before our wonder-struck eyes.

I believe this is what Neytiri was for many of us; a flash of illumination that lit up our inner landscape for a moment. It was just a moment, but it was so powerful that it was indelibly imprinted on us. It is the secret of her enchantment over us. She was like water flowing into a new and much larger chamber through a crack; she was a new way of looking at life that tumbled us head-first into a larger, grander world. And in that moment, Neytiri became a living essence in our lives—teaching us; leaning in to us even closer than she did with Jake as she taught him to use the bow. And just as those transcendent dreams I had as a child were even more intensely real than anything I experienced in waking life, so too is Neytiri an absolutely real and powerful presence inside of us—guiding us, teaching us, loving us.
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Great as always. I have to go before I can leave a detailed response, but it's good to be reading a commentary from you again.
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haha I was just thinking while reading Part VII to write "Empty Glass inspired me to read this thread" - and then I get to the end of it, and whose post do I see! Empty Glass'! Just TOO many coincidences on this forum... i daresay they begin to form a tendency..

BEAUTIFULLY written, Neytiri_Quest. You wrap your feelings in words so well, I see not that your mind is giving a rational account, but your heart is talking thru your mind here. Imho, think of writing seriously if you don't do it already, you're obviously talented, and your thread is such a relief to so many people. I love Neytiri in a sisterly way, I admire her, I see this girl is so great, she is so... PURE, can't find a better word (& I won't retell your whole thread here I love Sylvanin, too - for some reason, she comes in my dreams & meditations, & I love it when she does, well, now that she is within Eywa it mustn't be too difficult for her...

Talking about Eywa... that scene when Neytiri finds Jake in his human body in the shack... She is Eywa - All Mother for Na'vi - personified in this moment! The LOVE in her eyes, it's so incredibly beautiful that I'd better shut up cos I won't find the right words to express it...

Ah yes, let her be your guiding star, as she already is, to become a better person (I mean all Neytiri clan, and whoever is reading this thread).

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Great as always. I have to go before I can leave a detailed response, but it's good to be reading a commentary from you again.
Thanks, Empty Glass. I'm glad you enjoyed this latest Commentary. I look forward to any additional response you have to it.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:14 PM
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BEAUTIFULLY written, Neytiri_Quest. You wrap your feelings in words so well, I see not that your mind is giving a rational account, but your heart is talking thru your mind here. Imho, think of writing seriously if you don't do it already, you're obviously talented, and your thread is such a relief to so many people.

I love Neytiri in a sisterly way, I admire her, I see this girl is so great, she is so... PURE, can't find a better word (& I won't retell your whole thread here I love Sylvanin, too - for some reason, she comes in my dreams & meditations, & I love it when she does, well, now that she is within Eywa it mustn't be too difficult for her...

Ah yes, let her be your guiding star, as she already is, to become a better person (I mean all Neytiri clan, and whoever is reading this thread).
Thank you very much for the kind words, apache_blanca. I'm glad you see this thread as helpful to others--that's the intention I've always had with the Commentary thread and the Neytiri Love Poems thread as well.

I'm pleased you like Sylwanin, too. She was a strong influence during Neytiri's younger life, and became a powerful guiding presence after her death. Her story moved me to write the poem, Neytiri: To Sylwanin, Dying Young (which is included in the Neytiri Love Poems thread which can be accessed from my signature). She also inspired much of Commentary VI, which was divided into Part A and Part B because of its length.

Again, thank you.
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