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Old 05-21-2010, 12:22 PM
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I'm beginning to think my best friend is one...

He went to see it twice in the cinema with me and a bunch of my other friends, they were (about) my eleventh and twelfth viewings when I saw them but they were his first and second. Both times we came away from the cinema he seemed to be completely in awe of it and when i asked him what he thought, he was pretty much lost for words on both counts. However when I told him i'd seen it twelve times before, he wondered how I could see it so many times and not get bored of it.

So the time passes and I thought he'd pretty much forgotten about Avatar. Moved on. Like a lot of my friends. But yesterday I went over his house to play some PS3 and talk... pretty much what we do all the time. Suddenly, without warning he just says "I've been watching Avatar." Naturally, I was a little surprised and also a little bit excited. While I know he loved the film, I didn't think he loved it enough to watch it at home. I thought he might have had his fill with those two cinema viewings.

He tells me he originally put it on to do some studying (or revision as we call it ) as a background movie, but he ended up watching it and he was completely captivated. He then went on to tell me that he'd watched it another 3 times in as many days...

I was totally and completely dumbfounded. While this may not seem like a lot to you guys, to me it was a real shock. It was a complete and utter defiance of what I had assumed. Aside from everyone here, I know of absolutely no one else personally who got pulled into Avatar as much as I did so this was something big. I was, in fact, so shocked that the conversation about it ended pretty much right there. I myself was lost for words. The only other thing he said was "Now I understand how you don't get bored of it."

I also realised that 'addiction' was my first step to actually Seeing the messages behind Avatar and trying to embrace them which makes me even more curious about this situation.

So I don't know, i'm a little confused. Something is telling me he's quite the Avatarian, but I don't know if he really Sees it or whether he's just hooked on Pandora and Neytiri. I'd like to bring it up and discuss it with him, but I kind of fear that If i've read the signals he's sending wrong and I express my true Avatarian, that he'll think i'm taking it way too far. Then again. I might discover he feels exactly the same way.

So I need some help here, how do I go about finding out if he's a fellow Avatarian?

P.S. Another one of my friends pre-ordered the collector's edition blu-ray pack for release day delivery. Everybody else claims he only did it because he wants to build up a blu-ray collection, but I think he's in the same situation as the guy above - he's possibly scared of exposing his fandom as I am.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:44 PM
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* Ask him out right. "How much do you like Avatar? You can't possibly like it more then me." If you and your friend exchanges challenges like this, how could be back down from such a challenge if he is an avatar fan?
probably the best idea.

for the other friend, ask him how many times hes seen it. and if he wants to see it again.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:03 PM
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Might just be embarrassed to say how much he loved it. I'm a closet Twilight fan to those I know, just because I know how dumb it really is while still enjoying it.

With Avatar, your friend might be afraid of the overattention given to the film, heard about the obsessive nature of many of the fans, and doesn't want anyone to know he's a part of it. It's natural.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:37 PM
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Maybe your friend is starting to go through the early stages of PAD? He may just be trying to keep quiet about it. But chances are that if he watched it three more times in a couple of days, your freind will "see" what Avatar really means
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Old 05-22-2010, 02:43 AM
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It's totally understandable. I don't really talk about how much I love it, even with the guys in my band (we're very close). Though, at the same time, I don't deny how many times I've seen it when asked, which is approximately 15.

I think your friends are just scared of being embarrassed or labeled an "Avatar Nerd" or something. I would go with the challenge "You can't possible like it more than me!" and that will start a conversation about it!
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:12 AM
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Ask him about the characters. If he calls them Smurfs or some other bad name you can say for sure he doesn't "see" Avatar. Ask about Pandora, ask him if he would think it would be cool to live there. If you see him often, observe to see if he acts differently.

Those are my tips, hope he eventually joins us.
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:15 AM
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I see them more as big blue cats.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:30 PM
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I agree with MGCJerry. Subtlety is the best option, you could even start with something like 'you know, some things people do really annoy me since avatar' and see if he responds positively.

Personally, I wouldn't say go for the 'who likes Avatar most?' though, as he'll probably just say 'you.' if he is trying to hide his love for Avatar.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:39 PM
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Hmm... still a difficult situation.

I have not had a good chance to really talk to him about it as of yet... the last time I saw him was at a party on the weekend. Not exactly the most down-low place to ask him.

I think I like the idea of subtlety a bit more than a full 'attack' as that's more likely to end in me being embarrased. I can say I have kind of noticed a small change in his attitude and I believe he said he had watched it a 4th time... When I get a good chance to ask him, i'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks everyone for the answers.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:41 AM
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I agree with MGCJerry. Subtlety is the best option, you could even start with something like 'you know, some things people do really annoy me since avatar' and see if he responds positively.

Personally, I wouldn't say go for the 'who likes Avatar most?' though, as he'll probably just say 'you.' if he is trying to hide his love for Avatar.
This is a good point actually. You'll have to use your judgement, you'll know your friend better than us- some respond better to one or the other. But start with subtlety
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:58 PM
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If I was called out on it, I would almost certainly deny being an Avatarian. Although, I'm kind of the generic cynic geek at school, so when someone is talking about Avatar and asks me, I just say "Ummm... it was a great sci-fi." and leave it at that. It's not that I'm ashamed, it's just that they would think that I'm completely nuts, or more so than they already do.

My advice is to slowly open him up to Avatar. Talk about it every time you spend more than ten minutes with him. If he gets tired of it and always tries to change the subject, he is either too embarrassed or not rally in love with it. However, if he readily responds, keep going a little further every day about Avatar, start talking about its emotional impact, the storyline. If you can talk to him like you can talk to us a month or two after easing him into Avatar, you've really got a good friend, and this will strengthen your friendship even more.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:36 AM
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Sneak some questions into your average talks, make references to the movie and about your intentions. If he sees it coming, than just ask directly. There is no point in subtly through conversation if the other end knows how it's going to end, your just wasting their time than.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:23 PM
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Making references is a good idea, like quoting lines. I do it fairly often now, just in case someone hears and ends up noticing...
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:45 AM
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Making references is a good idea, like quoting lines. I do it fairly often now, just in case someone hears and ends up noticing...
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