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Old 09-05-2010, 08:42 AM
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i finally got around to watching AVATAR again today. First time in 6 months. But i don't feel anything.
So here i am, waiting to return to the glory days of not talking, spending hours and hours on the forums, and having only AVATAR on my mind...

I really hope i get PAD soon, i need to feel something...
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Old 09-05-2010, 02:18 PM
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It's a fact of life that everything changes, sooner or later. It's best to be open to feeling anything new than to fixate on one direction from which it may never come.
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Old 09-05-2010, 04:00 PM
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For two days I felt nothing after I watched the Special Edition. Then it all came down at once, so expect it to.
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Old 09-05-2010, 04:45 PM
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It was the same for me...
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Old 09-05-2010, 04:56 PM
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i finally got around to watching AVATAR again today. First time in 6 months. But i don't feel anything.
So here i am, waiting to return to the glory days of not talking, spending hours and hours on the forums, and having only AVATAR on my mind...

I really hope i get PAD soon, i need to feel something...
We're always going to look back at a special time in our life and want to return. However, that says something - its constant - meaning, some months from now we're going to want to return to today, even if it's a bad day. Think about it. You want to go back to depression "glory days", and yet during that time, you probably just wanted to get out of depression. So it seems no matter what our condition, we always want to get out of the time we're living in and go to the past. The point is, enjoy what today has to offer, because tomorrow it will be another experience you'll wish you could re-live. Today has its own benefits, just as the depression-days had its own. Seek out the positives of today. You said you can't feel any depression. Use that as a sign that depression is gone and a new experience is about to begin.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:11 PM
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How do you know that?
I've asked you this before... just because you decided that the option for you was the blue pill, how do you think that is the right option for everyone?
I'll be completely truthful, Avatar gives me actual meaning in life where otherwise I would have completely nothing... I know I'm not the only one who feels that there isn't much else for me...

Not everyone else HAS something to force themselves to feel happy... I don't know about you, but this is EXACTLY why I never really liked PAD as a term... it creates a 'negative' perception form people who don't really get it.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:24 PM
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We're always going to look back at a special time in our life and want to return. However, that says something - its constant - meaning, some months from now we're going to want to return to today, even if it's a bad day. Think about it. You want to go back to depression "glory days", and yet during that time, you probably just wanted to get out of depression. So it seems no matter what our condition, we always want to get out of the time we're living in and go to the past. The point is, enjoy what today has to offer, because tomorrow it will be another experience you'll wish you could re-live. Today has its own benefits, just as the depression-days had its own. Seek out the positives of today. You said you can't feel any depression. Use that as a sign that depression is gone and a new experience is about to begin.
I've been really sad lately due to non-PAD related stuff (Life's just a bitch sometimes). While I hate using the word 'wish,' since 'am going to' is a much better phrase that I'm usually better with using... I wish I could internalize and apply the bolded phrase to my life, attitude, and self. Sometimes when stuff gets worse and worse, it's hard to see a way back up.

This is very good advice. I recommend reading it again.

As for PAD, treat it like this: The reason you were in emotional turmoil from Avatar before (I was anyway) is because you experienced a paradigm shift in your thinking. Maybe you've since adjusted to your new thoughts and point of view, which is why you no longer feel the sadness... But appreciate that you maintain your more 'enlightened' point of view, minus the negative connotations of the phrase.

Not sure if any of that helped, but continue to enjoy the experiences of Avatar and everybody here
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:59 PM
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As for PAD, treat it like this: The reason you were in emotional turmoil from Avatar before (I was anyway) is because you experienced a paradigm shift in your thinking. Maybe you've since adjusted to your new thoughts and point of view, which is why you no longer feel the sadness... But appreciate that you maintain your more 'enlightened' point of view, minus the negative connotations of the phrase.

Not sure if any of that helped, but continue to enjoy the experiences of Avatar and everybody here
It made plenty sense to me. Thank you. That was a beautiful post.

"Paradigm shift"...do you read Covey?
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:16 PM
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As for PAD, treat it like this: The reason you were in emotional turmoil from Avatar before (I was anyway) is because you experienced a paradigm shift in your thinking. Maybe you've since adjusted to your new thoughts and point of view, which is why you no longer feel the sadness... But appreciate that you maintain your more 'enlightened' point of view, minus the negative connotations of the phrase.
I'll second caveman, that's insightful and helpful.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:20 PM
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Not everyone else HAS something to force themselves to feel happy...
I can't see where Caveman suggested anyone force themselves to be happy. What words of his specifically do you find that meaning in?

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I don't know about you, but this is EXACTLY why I never really liked PAD as a term... it creates a 'negative' perception form people who don't really get it.
What's a better term?

I've been having some more thoughts about this lately and I think I'll start a separate thread for them.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:29 PM
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It made plenty sense to me. Thank you. That was a beautiful post.

"Paradigm shift"...do you read Covey?
Thanks!
It's actually a term I learned in business that I've also seen used in psychology. I've never read his or her work... Any recommendations? That sounds relevant to my interests!

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I'll second caveman, that's insightful and helpful.
Thanks for the kind comment
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Why not PAE? If you wanna feel something, happiness is always better than depression.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:15 PM
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How do you know that?
My own experiences. For some reason I can look back at the worst days of my life (January, due to the depression), and sometimes think "I wish I could go back". I'm sure others are like this too. Just like parents wishing to be kids again. What I'm saying is for those parents: enjoy being an adult. There are pros and cons to it, just enjoy the pro's and don't dwell on the cons.

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I've asked you this before... just because you decided that the option for you was the blue pill,
I don't consider it as taking a blue pill. If you insist on comparing my life choices with the Matrix, then I took the red pill. I accepted reality, I know the truth. I realized that I'm on Earth, better make the most of it, and the truth is I don't belong here. I belong on Pandora, but that doesn't stop me from seeking a self-fulfilling life. I chose reality, and I am very happy and excited about all the opportunities to make a difference around me.

I don't see what the other option would be. I don't know what the blue pill would be. Maybe sitting in a room pretending to be on a fictional world while life passes you by.

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how do you think that is the right option for everyone?
Well, I can't speak for others. Sorry if I come out that way, I'm just stating my opinions. But I look at the community support page and truly think that all of those problems would be at least helped, if they moved on from depression. Look at Stanly. I don't have to be a psychologist to know this second wave of depression has done him no good. And I'm not expert, but I bet meeting girls is difficult when you're generally sad all the time.

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I'll be completely truthful, Avatar gives me actual meaning in life where otherwise I would have completely nothing... I know I'm not the only one who feels that there isn't much else for me...
Actually, I wasn't talking to you. This post was to the original poster. I want him or her to reconsider jumping back into depression. Regardless of how you feel about it, others have had difficult times with it. And with all the talk about "I want to live life, I want my life to mean something", I just don't see depression, or similar Avatar-related-emotions, being a step closer to this kind of life. It's been 8 months since the initial depression, and I'm asking if you (the OP) really want another 8 months of non-stop Avatar thoughts. Or, do you want to turn that depression into something motivational, and live on, fulfilling that "meaning" we all want out of life.

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it creates a 'negative' perception from people who don't really get it.
It creates a negative perception with good reason. Need I bring up the 100's of threads that ask "I have PAD, Please help me..."?

Oh, and I get PAD. Please, don't treat me like I don't know anything about PAD. I've had it. I've considered taking my life because of it. I've seen others the same way. I've seen it transformed into something amazing and motivational. I've done that myself. I've helped dozens others with it, for 8 months, so some of them can chose to "jump back into it" because "they like playing with their emotions". That's just a slap in the face for people like me and Sempu. I'm here because I want others to be happy. I think I know how anyone can achieve that for themselves. Trying to get depression again is not part of that.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:27 PM
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Thanks!
It's actually a term I learned in business that I've also seen used in psychology. I've never read his or her work... Any recommendations? That sounds relevant to my interests!



Thanks for the kind comment
"The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" by Stephen Covey.

Its one of the best self-help books out there, not that I'm suggesting you need to change yourself. It has to do with changing basic character, so that habits like "seek to understand, then be understood" become natural and not forced.

The first part is about paradigms and paradigm shifts, which is why I thought you read it. It also teaches about the difference between personality and character. It's very interesting, and I recommend it. And like you mentioned, it can be used in things like business and other fields.

Oh, and thanks for the nice comment earlier!
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As for PAD, treat it like this: The reason you were in emotional turmoil from Avatar before (I was anyway) is because you experienced a paradigm shift in your thinking. Maybe you've since adjusted to your new thoughts and point of view, which is why you no longer feel the sadness... But appreciate that you maintain your more 'enlightened' point of view, minus the negative connotations of the phrase.

Not sure if any of that helped, but continue to enjoy the experiences of Avatar and everybody here

That is brilliant advice. Thank you.

On a side note, i saw AVATAR again today. I still didn't cry, but it was good.
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