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Old 06-08-2011, 01:30 AM
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*(Read my first post first)* The Na'vi of planet Pandora are an incredible representation of what we as humans so deeply (sometimes subconsciously) desire. Something that we have lost along the industrial age of Capitalistic lies and deceit, to brainwash its citizens into a system which suppresses one's actual freedom, and turns the vast majority of humanity into a greed ridden, money hungry scum. Ohh man, the amount of posts that I have made on this forum does not do justice to how much I love Pandora and it's Na'vi people, any second that I was given the chance to go to Pandora I'd be there in a heartbeat, I love Nature, I love indigenous peoples, and I still have hope for this humanity, hope that one day the brothers and sisters of this planet will be able to appreciate relationships with one another not as a "contract" but as a genuine love for the fellow man on this tiny paradise that is earth. While some people may not have been profoundly changed by this catalyst, I know that enough of us have, enough to make a major difference. Doing small things such as picking up garbage or something like that is important, but we MUST think big, start a revolution, an educated revolution, one in which we gain enough recognition through studies to be a major influence on government officials. After all, the woman that we are all on some level in love with, Neytiri, was the best student at Grace Augustine's school, she loved it, and she would have still been in it if it wasn't for military complications :nsad: ... I am studying right now, going to go to university soon for engineering then into grad school for environmental applied science and management, hopefully get my PhD (the moment I get it I'm writing a letter to James Cameron ). All my energy right now is put into making my dream of making Earth the Pandora that it once was, please, everyone do the same, the Na'vi would all fight like me to advocate change if they lived on this planet... they wouldn't necessarily be dreaming of another planet, but they WOULD fight for their own planet. I'm allowing Avatar to make a profound, productive, life changing influence on me. I've found something worth fighting for guys, I know that you can relate. Now, I am aware that this emotional love and extremely painful longing for Pandora will probably fade to some extent , but it's no different than getting over the honeymoon phase with a wife or husband... most of the time you still love them afterwards, it's the next step, a step into which can even be more rewarding. I will always remember Avatar as the movie which ignited my desire into a paradise which was once our Neolithic ancestry (except flying ikrans and bioluminescence at night ). Please, let's do what a Na'vi would do, let's make Neytiri proud, Neytiri exists... She is the Mother Nature that we must protect, and allow to flourish into the beauty that is Pandora. I have a bunch of pictures saved on my computer which look 99% like Pandora, but are found on earth in tropical and temperate rain-forests worldwide on our planet Earth, which should also help advocate change towards changing this world into natural sustainability (I'll post them once I figure out to to attach attachments from my computer and not from the URL). I also have a lot of links which should make all of you fellow PAD sufferers and Pandora lovers enjoy. ( It wont let me post with links!! , can someone please help me?, I will post the links and pictures in my reply)

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Old 06-11-2011, 04:54 PM
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KalTXí I was going to suggest you befriend Aurora Glacialis about helping the planet but I see you're already in touch so that's good.

erm, about the links to the pics - I haven't quite figured it either but ask the admins - Eltu helped me a lot, & he already invited you to PM him (send a Private Message) if anything so I gather you have a green light here There is a whole thread called Pandora on Earth iirc so your pics surely will find themselves "at home" there

About Neytiri... check this thread out: Why We Love Neytiri

and also Ode to Neytiri and Other Neytiri Poems
I personally find them marvelous *thumbs up*. Pity I seem to be the only woman on ToS who is reading it...

ah, well, since I am at it: other threads:
Avatar Clans Meetup in Seattle
it's superlong but the most interesting is pre-meetup + meetup as such (the photos! the videos! the comments! whoah!)

and Watch Seattle Pictures Live from Seattle Meetup
I must admit I am a fervent fan of both but since you're new, this is just to give you an idea what ToS Clan gets up too...

Enjoy & welcome to the family!
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:44 PM
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This is true, I want Pandora and the Na'vi more than anything...
The thing is, I can understand the point with Earth, because I'm here, but it's still just not Pandora.

But trust me, it doesn't fade, at all. I still feel just as I did that evening over a year ago
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:03 PM
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This is true, I want Pandora and the Na'vi more than anything...
The thing is, I can understand the point with Earth, because I'm here, but it's still just not Pandora.

But trust me, it doesn't fade, at all. I still feel just as I did that evening over a year ago
^^^^ it's curious how it never seems to go away, yeah...

For some days last week I kept hearing this track in my head; it would kick in the office & wouldn't let me work. Add the accompanying it images of the Na'vi living Na'vi life & doing Na'vi things - running thru the jungle, climbing the trees, jumping off them in a lake, touching shining plants at night... & I was feeling irrationally (?) sad that I cannot do it. Enormously sad actually.

What I do when I feel this way is to meditate I put on the cd with that track and dive in. And writing on ToS whether posts or PMs helps, too. After all, it's the Na'vi-on-Earth family that we have here...
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:53 PM
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Your posts really invoke some nostalgia inside me. Reminds me of my Avatar highs well over a year ago.. There's only a tiny bit left of it anymore. Nevertheless I'd still prefer society like the Na'vi's.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:25 AM
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Fosus - watch Avatar again, but make sure the timing is right - uninterrupted, not too tired or too far to any one emotional extreme, but not lacking in emotion either. Finding the optimal viewing time is the main limiting factor in how often I watch it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:25 AM
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I will keep you guys updated soon, thank you for everything. Avatar will always be in my heart, for it is the main motivation for everything I will do from that first moment a couple of years ago, until now, until always.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:10 AM
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Freedom, welcome, and thank you, thank you, thank you, for bringing your experience here. It's been a while since we've had someone with that level of reaction show up. It would have been easy to think that the site would eventually fade away. But you've shown me that we need to be here forever because there are always going to be people who are seeing Avatar for the first time and having your experience.

If you search this forum and Avatar-forums you'll find many other people with your intensity of experience. Look for the threads "Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible" and "Hearts, Lies, and Love." You have truly come to the right place.

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I'm allowing Avatar to make a profound, productive, life changing influence on me.
That is one of the most powerfully succinct statements I've seen here. I wish I could capture in as few words how much it warms my heart that our cause has - not another follower, but another leader. You're wise to predict that the emotional intensity won't be this strong forever, but you also know that you will never be the same again. Hold on to that fire and keep it burning inside and you can do great things.

I know that a great many people in the space business are there because of seeing Star Trek as a kid, even though they don't publicize it that much. I know that in the future there will be a massive resurgence in the environmental movement and it will be because of Avatar, even though most of the people affected won't publicize that either. I can imagine them meeting each other in the movement and gradually realizing what they share... "Hey, you too, huh?"

The kind of inspiration that you posted is what keeps me coming back here. And you know, you will find your Neytiri. Relationships are more complicated than movies... they always tell a selective story. If they showed what Neytiri was like when she was having her period or just found Jake leaving the toilet seat up, you might not get as rosy a picture but it would be a more accurate one :-) But what was in her heart, you can find in women here; you just have to look harder, it won't show up in for only a 2 hours and $13.95 investment :-) And the place you are in, with that level of passion for making a difference, is perfect for manifesting a relationship.

Please come back often!
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:59 AM
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Kaltxi Freedom!!
I am glad to see that you will be majoring in the Environmental Sciences. The very BEST of Success to you, all the way to your PhD.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:31 AM
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That video is insane. And ended too early. How the heck do they stop?

Definitely read "Original Wisdom". Inspirational to know what we had, sad to see how much we lost.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:56 PM
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Thank you Sempu, like I've said the flame in my heart which fueled the passion which avatar has triggered still strong, I will make a difference. Hopefully meet a girl like Neytiri with the same values and love for our planet and all its life as well as a desire to protect it. Eywa exists, for she is Gaia on earth. I know I haven't been posting much, but I've been reading posts on here, and I've been doing my best to guide myself towards doing everything I said when I first wrote the opening post on the thread "My experience". I have read Original Wisdom, incredible stuff... another book is animate earth:science, intuition and Gaia as well as Spell of the Sensuous, as was recommended my auroraglacialis, truly solidified my experience with Avatar.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:30 PM
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Thank you for sharing your experence as as many have said Avatar asks "some" people to make a move from our intellect to there heart in a very profound way and presents through very deep examples the colletive world view of how people who are connected to the web of life and there family clan as "The people" live, and our interaction and conflicts with them in the past and Happening right "Now". I beleve we all relate to this and deep inside many "want it back" this will drive world change if enought people share and value this view. Because Avatar is a "mirror story" at its roots what we "See" reflects on our very deep inner memorys Avatar "does not create them" but it does let us Reconnect to something we allways have had inside but repress in our culture, I found the fealing like discoving a great seed of Wisdom within. For people who realy grasped this understanding " This seed grows" and drives a very deep inner desire for our people to act with respect and accountabilty so does our drive to address the issues we now truly
"see" this can be quite painful inside and few on the outside can grasp or understand "why" ? While everyones experence is diffrent as we all relate to Avatars story in a unique manor there seems to be an almost universal understanding that our mainstream world view is very wrong many share these fealings " Avatar's Wisdom - YouTube through speach or artistic video example "Avatar Sing it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivCapZuB6c and this has lead me to question deeply the direction my life and humanity as a whole where headed in, It realy changed my view on humanity and my world view as a whole as I reflected on the actions of my people, I took what I felt was the logical yet heartfelt next step try and tryed find the underlying roots of this deep "feeling" I had inside because Avatar in its is story "mirrors" the world view of native wisdom and is capable of building a very strong bridge in some I decided to take a look at the cultural and spiritual roots James Cameron used in the film and the astounding amount of research and respect that was there running under Avatars simple story. Avatar drives such deep inner memorys because it is one of few films that truly touches on the importance of Ancient wisdom inside us it speaks on our connection to our Ancestors and for some directly to it in a sublime way . this builds in some a very strong "bridge" of understanding and respect on how our people where "once a human family that worked together" our world view now drives such "A sence of seperation" as the system and the thought behind it drives our "mechnistic" view on the world where we are for all purposes feel like a cog in an asembly line "machine"
this "Illusion of seperation" where happyness and sucess is driven by the paper in ones wallet and what one owns stands in sharp contrast to this inner feeling of our loss of humanity, in looking at peoples who are deeply connected to the earth and each other and "see" the issues our world view is causing and the fact there are almost 7 Billion of "Us" I cant say going back to the old ways is the solution to our problems we will very likely need to develop as a people "technolgy to address our massive energy and food demands in a "earthcentric manor" there are many trying to warn us of this fact but there words often fall on deaf ears and blind eyes, I can point to one real world example that mirrors avatar
very strongly and may help people "grasp" the "fealing" Avatar left inside when people talk of there very strong connection to "Neytiri" and the connection of the relations betwean "Jake and Neytiri" please ask do we just "see" Neytiri for her charter , or do we bridge what she represents as she presents and teaches her world view to Jake from her heart this Connection we realy feel inside of we relate to our ancient wisdom inside
here is an example of how posably real a source this connection comes from in some people
this example speakes of only native amaricans we all know James Cameron intended a global world view "'Avatar' is also a story of deep DNA within many Americans - YouTube Avatar my be very be a very intresting litnus test for those who posess these "connections" then again this my be speculation on my part . for those intrested in real world connections that tie in very strongly "search on topics "Kogi and Aluna" Aluna the Movie | The Message

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