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Dreaming Of Pandora 10-02-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavier Foxx (Post 99905)
*Stays firmly in the UK Ireland*

This.

Fkeu'itan 10-02-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavier Foxx (Post 99905)
*Stays firmly in the UK Ireland Wales*

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Originally Posted by Dreaming Of Pandora (Post 99910)
This.

This. :D

Советский меч 10-02-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavier Foxx (Post 99905)
*Stays firmly in the UK*
Sun? Naw, I'm good over here, where it rains, and our Government doesn't spy on us. What utter bullshivic. "Online Terror" Go jump off a building.

You think your government doesnt watch you just because it isnt in a news report? WRONG!

ballju 10-02-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrow (Post 99914)
You think your government doesnt watch you just because it isnt in a news report? WRONG!

exactly and the uk WAS in not-so-recent news report Every-phone-call-email-and-internet-click-stored-by-state-spying-databases.html

Anyway on the topic at hand this is just extending wiretaps Lawful interception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to the digital era.
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“We’re talking about lawfully authorized intercepts,” said Valerie E. Caproni, general counsel for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. “We’re not talking expanding authority. We’re talking about preserving our ability to execute our existing authority in order to protect the public safety and national security.”
All this is doing is allowing for internet wiretaps an extension of something that we had in the 'analog' era.
  • Communications services that encrypt messages must have a way to unscramble them.
  • Developers of software that enables peer-to-peer communication must redesign their service to allow interception.
oh noes the feds can spy on people they have 'just cause' and evidence to spy on what is this world coming to ...

source: U.S. Tries to Make It Easier to Wiretap the Internet

Grif 10-02-2010 10:44 PM

Underground peer to peer chat here we come!
Who wants to have a key signing party?

Human No More 10-02-2010 11:18 PM

Come over here :P
It may not be perfect but a warrant is still needed and that needs proof.
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Originally Posted by Sight Unseen (Post 99881)
decryption hardware

Ok, take than tinfoil hat off. Just use AES and your data will be good for at least the next few hundred years. Do you know how hard strong crypto is to crack? :P


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Originally Posted by Grif (Post 99931)
Underground peer to peer chat here we come!
Who wants to have a key signing party?

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/responsible_behavior.png
:awesome:

Советский меч 10-02-2010 11:28 PM

I know a cryptologist in the NSA. Theres alot you guys dont know.

ZenitYerkes 10-02-2010 11:33 PM

And I wish we needn't to know them.

Grif 10-02-2010 11:41 PM

My advise it to find some good crypto, nothing new, stuff that has been around for awhile and still is believed to be unbroken.

Sight Unseen 10-02-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto (Post 99895)
If I suddenly ever disappear from this forum, you know why...

Same.
/me quietly takes off TPB shirt, puts on "I <3 Obama" shirt.
/me now has a serious rash on torso, trouble breathing. :xD:

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Originally Posted by Aihwa (Post 99909)
10 years and we're still quaking in our boots.

Yeah. I believe that the government has done more for the terrorists than the terrorists have.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 99936)
Come over here :P
It may not be perfect but a warrant is still needed and that needs proof.

As soon as I move out, get a job, etc, I'm moving to Sweden. Piratpartiet FTW! (Sorry UK :P)

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 99936)
Ok, take than tinfoil hat off. Just use AES and your data will be good for at least the next few hundred years. Do you know how hard strong crypto is to crack? :P

You can't encrypt everything, and at some point data is always vulnerable.
Eavesdrop on keyboards wirelessly - Hack a Day
Center for Information Technology Policy Lest We Remember: Cold Boot Attacks on Encryption Keys

/me keeps tin foil hat. :rolleyes:

Advent 10-03-2010 12:02 AM

Well at least in Australia, the government wouldn't try it.

You'd think with all these taxes they'd have enough money but noooooo, they're too busy spending it on Healthcare Reforms and Navy defenses and a National Broadband Network....

Oh. :shock:

Human No More 10-03-2010 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrow (Post 99941)
I know a cryptologist in the NSA. Theres alot you guys dont know.

I very nearly lol'd IRL.

There isn't the computing power on earth to crack even a single message.
There's a reason the NSA didn't want people to even have DES, which is far, far weaker than proper algorithms. Not to mention that if you have something critical, you just use multiple algorithms - AES combined with Blowfish and/or Serpent means that even if there is a weakness in one (EXTREMELY unlikely as if there was, it would have been found already) then any analysis method is worthless.
Stop reading books like Digital Fortress, that book actually made me laugh IRL.

Isard 10-03-2010 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrow (Post 99941)
I know a cryptologist in the NSA. Theres alot you guys dont know.

My friend, you know nothing. :rolleyes:

There's no such thing as secrets. Well, at least secrets that I dont hear about.

TxonTirea 10-03-2010 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 99977)
Stop reading books like Digital Fortress, that book actually made me laugh IRL.

That book was amusing. I loved it. :D

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrow (Post 99914)
You think your government doesnt watch you just because it isnt in a news report? WRONG!

No, because I haven't been arrested/fined/warned for downloading things illegally means I'm not being watched. Good thing I'm not as paranoid as you. :cool:

Советский меч 10-03-2010 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aihwa (Post 100009)
My friend, you know nothing. :rolleyes:

There's no such thing as secrets. Well, at least secrets that I dont hear about.

Keep living in a dream


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