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Old 12-06-2010, 12:28 AM
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Just saw another very interesting article.
Here Come Homeland Security Internet Police, and They're Already Shutting Down Web Sites They Don't Like | | AlterNet
Read this, everyone deserves to know what is at stake, current planned laws threaten the very existence of free communications.

EVERYONE should be concerned by this, especially people in the US. But what you might NOT be anticipating is how this is done. This will happen the same way things have happened here: GRADUALLY. It's a slippery slope and once businesses manage to erode some rights, the rest follow, but so gradually, and in small amounts, that many people neither notice nor care until IF and when they suddenly realise there is nothing left.
EVERYONE should be committed to fighting censorship. Tell your governments that people won't stand for any more. Make a difference.

For people in the US, I would recommend the EFF, and the Open Rights Group for the UK. Other countries have their own organisations, find them. Read what businesses want to do, campaign if you can, and spread the word. If politicians face enough opposition, they will reconsider supporting anything that might cause them to lose influence.

You don't know what is at risk until it's gone, and it is even harder to regain then. Free speech is everything. No matter how small you think your impact is, if you can get 2 more people out of their complacency and to start doing something, if everyone did that, it will make a difference.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:07 AM
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Ah....

We need a geek army to stand against them.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:11 AM
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We need a geek army to stand against them.
I like the sound of that. Anonymous is a good start, too bad 4chan is slowly sucking the intelligence out of it.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:35 AM
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Hmmmm, I would think 4chan would've been shut down first
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Wow...
People are stupid...
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:57 AM
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I like the sound of that. Anonymous is a good start, too bad 4chan is slowly sucking the intelligence out of it.
The fact that they are around is one hope for eventually wining this war. Unfortunately, they can often be slow to rouse
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Old 12-06-2010, 03:19 AM
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My outlook for the future changed from 80F and 100% chance of rain to Category 5 hurricane. This is not good. Idk about where every one else lives, but here no one I know cares.

Someone needs to step up and actively oppose this...
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Old 12-06-2010, 03:30 AM
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This is more about piracy than censorship.
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Old 12-06-2010, 05:30 AM
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That website doesn't seem too convincing to me. I support free speech, but you have to think about it. If the government does anything serious with censorship, they'll have to deal with a revolution. People don't take ****, especially these days.

An army is far more powerful then it's leader.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:12 AM
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The fact that they are around is one hope for eventually wining this war. Unfortunately, they can often be slow to rouse
The cavalry has arrived!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/wo..._r=1&src=twrhp

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The collective Anonymous, an informal but notorious group of hackers and activists, also declared war on Sunday against enemies of Mr. Assange, calling on supporters to attack sites companies that do not support WikiLeaks and to spread the leaked material online.
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Between this and the greed of ISP's, the future of the net is starting to look dismal

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Hmmmm, I would think 4chan would've been shut down first
I would love to see this happen. Not because I have anything against 4chan, but to see the fallout of such an event. It would never happen though.
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Between this and the greed of ISP's, the future of the net is starting to look dismal



I would love to see this happen. Not because I have anything against 4chan, but to see the fallout of such an event. It would never happen though.
It happened once. Comcast blocked it, **** storm ensued.
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Indeed, I remember that. they really did not know who they were dealing with
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I am very disturbed by this too. We have allowed the government to gain too much control over the past couple of decades and now this. I hope something can be done to stop censorship. I may not agree or like what someone is saying or doing but I believe they have the right to say it as long as it isn't criminal.
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