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Old 09-06-2011, 08:46 PM
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I havent been around a lot recently (sad panda) due to some issues (lost wireless internet at house and am too lazy to figure out why, work, mixing/making music, ect.) but am still in close connection with ToS... I love you people, and i agree with everything HNM said <3
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:54 PM
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Thank you.

It's everyone's responsibility, to make ToS as welcoming as it has been before.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:09 PM
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Well, thats the most easy thing to do. If people forget their oversized ego - we all have part of it at least and act to each other as equal.

Its not about believing into something or anything, or liking something or nothing.. its all about conversation, based on a friendly, neutral and not hateful level.

And everyone should be possible in doing this. If we seriously would not be able to do that.. Then.. why the hell we meet in a board or irc chat at all?

We all should behave like adults - if we can manage that more or less successful, then the goal of the board, of the comunity was successful.

But if not... Well, that should be clear, or is it not?

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Old 09-06-2011, 11:32 PM
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^ Very nice.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:20 AM
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As it is, it seems I'm the only person capable of admitting that things need to change, and that's a problem.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:28 AM
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As it is, it seems I'm the only person capable of admitting that things need to change, and that's a problem.
STFU.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:30 AM
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What about the architects of this problem?
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:34 AM
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I don't like the idea of playing the blame game..
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:36 AM
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They probably want some form of change too, just not the right kind I suppose.
Anyway, this is irrelevant to your claim before that you were the only one admitting things need to change. You're not alone, so don't feel that way.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:37 AM
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I've admitted wrongdoing where it was necessary, but nobody else has been prepared to. People have said 'yes, let's get things back' but no more than that. I find that very telling.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:46 AM
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That's messed up bro. I said "If I ever hurt someone's feelings, I'd like to know about it." I said that so that I could make it right if I was wrong to someone. That means I am being accountable, whether I bring up a specific instance or not (I happen to not know of any specific instances). I was the first one to step up
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:22 AM
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Has it been three months yet? I remember a while back that something like every three months something comes up to cause disturbance in ToS...

Anyway, I'm not that active anymore but if there was anything, and I mean anything that I ever did in the past or recently to hurt anyone, let me know, PM, VM, or here, whatever. And I will do what I can to make sure I don't do it again. I mean, I have tried very hard to keep peace on my end, finding discussion I don't like, I just avoid it, I don't try to change it, instead I find something I do like, like the Neyney chat .

Anyway, if change is needed in the community, I think the best thing would be the change in attitude of the community, thats what makes ToS what it is. What has changed since the beginning when ToS was the promise land flowing with milk and honey? People have, we all change and as Avatar settled itself out into it's own little or big part of our life we have all changed. I'm not saying we need to go back to that, even though, that would be welcome to some. We just need to understand that many of us arn't the same as we were when Avatar first came into our lives. And respect that some of our old selves come out from time to time and forgive and understand that life has shaped everyone differently and to respect that.

This post has dragged on farther than I planned, but I hope I did some good.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:28 AM
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That's very true, some of us have changed since then I mean it has been over a year..
Anyway, I'd also like to say that if I have been responsible for any tension or the like then I am truly sorry, although I have done my best to be objective and optimistic.
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:12 AM
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Well, If we're all admitting wrongdoings and such, I'm pretty happy. The only person I've hurt recently is myself, and you tend to learn from such things.

But I honestly don't see a major disturbance here. People want a new subforum in which to discuss certain beliefs. It's not going to end the world or anything like that. It's just a slight reform, you might say.
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:25 AM
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I think apologizing is less important right now than trying to get things back to the "way they were". (Though I haven't been here long).

Everyone's said stuff they'd probably take back, but no one should apologize for expressing their opinions or beliefs.
I think this forum is exceptional in the fact that even though there are many disagreements and many debates (as it should be in a large & diverse community), a lot of us are willing to be friends outside of these disagreements. And I think that's important and we need to see more of that.

Everyone has their own different ways of expressing things. So what I think we need to realize is that we are all diverse in who we are and what we believe and our different views should never effect the relationships we have here outside of the debate sub-forum. And even then it shouldn't have too much of an impact.

To be honest I don't know exactly what I'm getting at but we need a genuine respect for each other.
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