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Old 10-20-2011, 08:01 PM
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Muammar Gadaffi has ben killed, and the war in Libya is finally over

The circumstances of his death are not yet clear. Video has emerged purporting to show Col Gaddafi being captured alive and bundled on to a truck.

Fighters loyal to the National Transitional Council (NTC) said they found him hiding in a hole, and shot him when he tried to escape.

Col Gaddafi was toppled in August after 42 years in power.

Western leaders welcomed the news.

US President Barack Obama said this was a "momentous day" for Libya, now that tyranny had fallen. He said Libya had a "long and winding road towards full democracy", but the US and other countries would stand behind it.

The colonel was fighting in Sirte alongside his two sons, Mutassim and Saif al-Islam, according to reports.

Officials say Mutassim was killed in battle on Thursday.

The NTC's Justice Minister Mohammad al-Alagi told the AP news agency Saif al-Islam had been captured and taken to hospital with a leg wound.

BBC News - Libya's Col Muammar Gaddafi killed, says NTC


Gaddafi Killed, NTC Tells Sky News - YouTube
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:18 PM
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Were I younger, and more impressionable, I would welcome such news greatly. But a death is still a death, even with the ending of tyranny and war.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:35 PM
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Advent, come on.

The guy was an evil douchebag, and he got what was coming to him.

War might be bad, but sometimes violence is necessary when corruption is involved. Also, "younger and more impressionable"?

You're like 13/14, right?

When people say "When I was younger and more impressionable" they're usually talking about their teenage years...
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:36 PM
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Also, "younger and more impressionable"?

You're like 13/14, right?

When people say "When I was younger and more impressionable" they're usually talking about their teenage years...
My thoughts exactly lol...
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:43 PM
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True, but one important rule I live by is that death, of any kind, isn't something to celebrate. I''ll celebrate the end of the war, but not that.

Yes, I'm 14 now. But by 'younger and more impressionable' I mean as in, a year or two ago. I was far more immature back then, and I'd like to think I've grown up considerably in the mental department.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:50 PM
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Remember that he is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths and ruined lives.

Some people deserve what's coming to them, and he is one of them. It might have been better if he had survived and been tried, even if he was subsequently executed despite my opposition to the death penalty, but they did the best in the situation.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:54 PM
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I'm glad that the Libyan people got to him first rather than Nato. Although you have to question the West's reaction to this..They have supported him in the past.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:26 AM
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Remember that he is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths and ruined lives.
I know, but one death is the same as any other.

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Some people deserve what's coming to them, and he is one of them. It might have been better if he had survived and been tried, even if he was subsequently executed despite my opposition to the death penalty, but they did the best in the situation.
Truthfully, nobody ever deserves anything, good or bad. It just happens. But anyway, I'm done making my point.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:42 AM
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After seeing the video of the last seconds of life of Gadaffi, I just feel that nobody deserves this. Let it be the prisoners or the executioner, the images are...

But what other solutions were there. This is the world we live in, and by the way everything is going it seems as though so many people deserve deaths like these.

I would like to believe that an eye for an eye will make the world blind but then, what are the alternatives.
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I'm kind of indifferent to whether he has died or not. Everyone dies sometime, and at least his death means the end to such tyranny
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Truthfully, the world would be in a better place if no one commited things that would lead to their death although unfortunately such things do happen. I trust that the majority of people wouldn't willingly do such things as cruelty and genocide..

As for Gadaffi's death, I haven't seen it..It would be unbearable to watch. Though I'd imagine, from Zenit's account that it would be both humiliating and gruesome..Echoing Saddam Hussain's death I think..
No human deserves to die like that..Although in the same breath, no one deserves to be killed by government crackdowns, protesting for equality and democracy or from idealogical conflict, ie the amounts of people killed because Gaddafi loyalists tried to defend Sirte from the masses of Libyan people who don't support Gaddafi's regime.
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Although you have to question the West's reaction to this..They have supported him in the past.
Well, they began supporting him, when he claimed to stop issueing terrorist attacks on western countries, such as the bomb placed in the Berlin discotheque "La Belle" on the night of April 4, 1986 as an act of revenge for the US sinking two Libyan warships in the operation "Attain Document". Three people were killed, 28 severely injured, 250 sustaining ruptured eardrums. The US under president Reagan retaliated in the operation "El Dorado Canyon" by air-bombing Tripolis, killing civilians, too (official numbers are between 15 to 36 people). The attack on "La Belle" was organized by the "Libyisches Volksbüro" in East-Berlin, as later findings in the files of the "Ministerium für Staatssicherheit" proved.

Being responsible for numerous terrorist attacks in the past, one can understand the relief western leaders feel about the news of Gaddafi's death. On the other hand, as has been stated already, it is really sad that it had to happen this way instead of seeing him put before a proper court, for instance. While it's true that revolution and the fight against dictatorship often goes hand-in-hand with fighting and killing, I still sigh at times, shake my head and ask myself why we "civilized" human beings haven't found a better solution for dealing with this as yet...

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Old 10-21-2011, 05:04 AM
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I think it was for the good overall in the end...

though like some have mentioned, I'm not sure he should have been executed.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:57 AM
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Mubarak had a trial..I know that for the dictators a trial would still mean that they would be executed or jailed because the evidence of their tyranny is too great but the trial is still symbolic..An opportunity for legal judgement that people should be entitled to, as all humans. Then hopefully justice will follow. Look at the trials with Hitler's men.
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:25 AM
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Another ruthless dictator falls. After the things he did, how could anyone have shown mercy towards him? He was a cold blooded murderer, he went on TV and vowed to fight to the end against the 'insurgents' and then was found cowering in the sewer - that says it all.

I wonder if the Syrian president will get to see the images of Gadaffi, surely he must be next?
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