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Old 04-14-2012, 02:28 PM
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Default Titanic - The Final Word with James Cameron

James Cameron did a documentary for National Geographic Channel called
"Titanic - The Final Word"

What stood out for me watching or more listening to this documentary, was a lot of Cameron's thought processes in general. They stood out for because he refers to the process as Forensic Archaeology, and for me, I see a lot of insights and parallels into how to approach Astro-Archaelogy.

“She sweeps over the waves like a building that has somehow learned to fly and you cannot help but gape at the mammoth scale of her, the largest moving object on Earth at more than 30 metres tall and four city blocks long.”

“Then comes her collision with that iceberg she saw too late. Her bow is slipping beneath the water and she is shooting off distress flares. Cameron stations his camera back, way back, placing the stricken ship amid a vastness of black water and an infinity of inky sky, the futile flare breaking pitifully above her. She is a tiny outpost of human anguish stranded in the ocean and you marvel that you ever thought her big.”


*Diving the wreak was my way into the story.

*Titanic does not give up her secrets easily. The more you work on this the more you can fill in the gaps, bring it into focus, like a fractal the closer you get to it the more you see completely new patterns.

*There has been a lot of ideas, a lot of theories. Its time to say this is what happened 'as best to our collective knowledge'.

*Understanding history, What is history? It's like this consensus hallucination!

*Looking into the darkness - looking into the beyond.

*(When looking at the Debris Field Map) – Keep the forest in sight. No such thing as ‘co-incidence’ -always good (perspective) in this type of analysis. Enigma’s that don’t make sense – stick to what we know and fill in the rest. Work Backwards. What caused this magnitude of destruction – How can we make sense of it!

*(Using remote bots to see inside the ship) - like exploring the labyrinth

*(Referencing the experience of remote bots) - Telepresence - you completely forget your human existence. You become that vehicle, you can feel what its feeling (which echo’s completely the 'experience' he creates in AVATAR)(Ballard echo's this in his statement's as well)

*Comment by one of his 'team' in making the documentary: "When you recover stuff from the Titanic, its wet, its rust, and its rotten, and the smell that comes of it is perfectly alien, perfectly fetid. You know it’s a kind of death you have never experienced and so the lab is kind of unpleasant. And then all of a sudden somebody opens up this leather satchel (of perfume bottles), and out comes the fragrance of heaven, out comes all these flowers and fruity flavours, at its delicious, its the most wonderful thing you have ever had. It was just a completely overwhelming experience. It was like all of a sudden the fragrance of heaven goes through the room. So instead of being surrounded by all these dead things, for those few 'moments' the ship was alive again." (I guess for me this pretty much sums up my, everyone's feelings of 'living in this world' just before Dec 18, 2009, and the along came AVATAR, and how it affected all of us)

*Another team member, whom is famous for his Titanic paintings: "With my paintbrush I’m subconsciously trying to bring all those souls back to life, to honour their remains, to help keep it alive in people's memory. The ship and the people." (Additionally his comments about the first time he saw footage of the dives of the Titanic) "It was like going to an autopsy - a rude awakening. I knew it as I would a brother, a sister, a mother, a father. There she was in a million pieces dead."

*Cameron refers often to the process as a Forensic Process and that in that process its like solving a murder mystery, or a plane crash, and its an onion skin process of working backwards in reverse.

*Whittling away at what’s real and what’s not real then you end up with the real mysteries which are solvable, the answers are there.

*Institutionalized myth – there were survivors who said, these individuals who tried to tell the story, (that the Titanic had broke in two) but they were shouted down by experts, who insisted after years no (the Titanic did not break apart). (The team notes - the evidence was there all along) They can’t all be having this hallucination! (all those in the same life boat).

*This is the ‘fun’ part of history because everyone wanted to romanticise it. We wanted it to sink as this beautiful Icon that passed away into another world, and is sitting perfectly in this ghostly way.

*The story of Titanic is in the survivors, people ignored that, all the focus was on the ship, but the story, the ‘real’ story is in the survivors

*Cameron’s final words “For me it’s so much more than simply an exercise in forensic archaeology. Part of the Titanic parable is of arrogance, of hubris, of the sense that we’re are to big to fail. Well where have we heard that one before (then a series of images of nuclear bomb, and environmental disasters). There was this big machine, this human system that was pushing forward with so much momentum that it couldn’t turn and couldn’t stop in time to avert disaster, and that’s what we have right now. Within that human system on board that ship, if you want to make it a microcosm for the world. You have different classes; you have 1st class, 2nd class, third class. Well in our world right now we’ve got developed nations and undeveloped nations, you’ve got the starving millions who are going to be the ones most affected by the next iceberg that we hit, which is going to be climate change. We can see that iceberg ahead of us right now, but we can’t turn. We can’t turn because of the momentum of the system, the political momentum, the business momentum, there are too many people making money out of the system, the way the system works right now. And those people, you know frankly, have their hands on the levers of power aren’t ready to let them go. And until they do we aren’t going to be able to turn and miss that iceberg and we are going to hit it. When we hit it, the rich are still going to be able to get their access to food, to arable land, to water, and so on. It’s going to be the poor, it’s going to be the steerage that are impacted, and that was the same with Titanic and I think that’s why this story will always fascinate, because it’s a perfect little capsulation of the world and all social spectra. But until all our lives are really put at risk, the moment of truth, we don’t know what we would do. And that’s my final word!"
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:55 PM
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Can't explain why I find this to be a symbolic Titanic song, but I do





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Old 04-20-2012, 12:31 AM
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I watched that NatGeo docufilm "Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron" and I really liked it...it was fascinating!
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