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Old 06-19-2012, 06:47 PM
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You heard it here first.
This has everything to do with the fact that MS is an imitator, not an innovator; everything they have done for 25 years is copy what Apple did 3 years prior.
Now, that was okay when all the made was software. Ninety percent of all peecees ran winblows, so their money stream was secure. But Apple innovates, sees the market 5 years forward, and is always ahead of the curve.
They predicted the mp3 player, and flatfooted MS responded with the zune, better know as a punchline.
Apple predicted the smartphone, and MS is just now making a serious effort to enter that market, and their best attempt has received tepid reviews.
And Apple largely created the new tablet market, selling every one they can make; they literally cannot meet demand. But the iPad is an outgrowth of the smartphone, and for MS, with no footprint there, they are jumping in hoping they can swim.
However, HP tried the same thing with their tablet, and it went over like a led balloon. They ended up just dumping it.
Obviously, with desktop sales slumping ever more sharply, and ever full size laptop sales slipping, MS must try something.
But I don't expect much.
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:30 PM
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The real issue of the new Windows tablet/ Windows 8 system is going to be whether or not users will cope with the radical shift in the interface with the floating blocks. From what I've read many reviewers had issues going things with a mouse that felt like they should be on a touch screen.

In other words, Microsoft's gamble that the desktop will die out by going for a heavy tablet focus many end up alienating its main user bases, home users and businesses.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:11 PM
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Microsoft invented the tablet.

The upcoming Microsoft failure is Windows 8. It's an average to bad tablet/phone OS, but completely useless for a real computer.

Apple caught the industry short with the iphone, yes, but it's a joke these days, Android is outselling it by orders of magnitude; apple is mainly kept afloat by brand loyalty.

PS. Overuse of huge dark green letters make your post really difficult to read.

PPS. Macs are a type of PC (Personal Computer), just a broken and locked-down one, so you just insulted your own idol there.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:09 AM
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Thank God I only bothered reading 7 words of this.
Microsoft invented the tablet, and I'm pretty sure the touch screen was a Microsoft creation, as well.

What I find amusing is that it's so easy to tell that you're obviously just an Apple fan-boy who's upset that people don't use your superior Apple technology.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:01 AM
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Windows 8 will just make people stick with Win 7 for the next decade or so like they did with XP. Funny though, as it's exactly what Microsoft wanted to avoid happening.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:42 PM
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Apple predicted the smartphone, and MS is just now making a serious effort to enter that market, and their best attempt has received tepid reviews.
Equally telling, I think, is the fact that Microsoft basically paid Nokia US$1 billion to dump Symbian for Windows Phone.

Will Microsoft's tablet bomb? If past experience & history is any indicator, if it does bomb I think we'll start seeing Microsoft throwing cash around to increase market share, quite possibly to the point of a Nokia-style payoff to manufacturers and developers. Will such a payoff work? Only time will tell.

I don't give a damn if it bombs or not, personally. I use what works for me, and I'm not unwilling to change if either Apple or Microsoft go too far with the lockdowns and the back-doors -- and the way things are doing I expect I'll be doing so fairly soon.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:43 PM
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It all depends on Windows 9. If it drops the attempt at Metro rubbish (remember Microsoft Bob, anyone?) for an option to have a real copmputer, I think it's recoverable for Microsoft. If not, we could very well see Linux gain a huge new market of admins, power users, gamers and anyone else who uses more than one thing at once.

Windows 8 is a mediocre tablet OS, and I'm fine with that on its own as it doesn't affect me. I think tablets are a useless gimmick, but even if I wanted one, I wouldn't use it as Android is orders of magnitude better. However, I recognise that it fills that niche for some people. What I object to is forcing it onto the desktop in the misguided belief that that will somehow improve market share rather than just alienate people.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:15 AM
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I've never really understood people who want to use windows in their cellphones or tablets. IMO Android isn't exactly good but windows is still way worse. :/
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If by "Tablet" you mean all Touch pads, then I would say that I like touch pads, because out here in the west Texas Desert, with it's talcum powder fine sand that gets into almost everything, the dust can NOT make it's way into the computer's innards by way of a keypad, as there IS NONE. This isn't just a "West Texas" thing, it is the same in southern New Mexico, Southern Arizona, and the south east California Desert, which is a LOT more people than just "Crazy Niri Te". I am getting an Apple iPad on the 29th, for many reasons, but the biggest is that my three year old 3G iPhone, (I got it the month after they came out) STILL works perfectly, I would just like a larger screen for my fat fingers. I also like the idea that it does NOT use the windows OS.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:48 PM
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If the Surface Pro has a good pen digitiser my ipad2 is going out.
For desktops/laptops i think microsoft is a good 5 years to early with windows 8 and people will stick with win7 for it.
For devices like this i have high hopes running windows 8. Photoshop on a tablet, perhaps even more, great!
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:24 PM
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"5 years too early" implies it's a good idea. It isn't. It's an attempt at a tablet that's worse than Android and even than the iPad, and MS somehow believe that forcing the exact same UI onto real computers will gain them market share rather than just alienate anyone who uses a computer for more than facebook, email and youtube.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:49 PM
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"5 years too early" implies it's a good idea. It isn't. It's an attempt at a tablet that's worse than Android and even than the iPad, and MS somehow believe that forcing the exact same UI onto real computers will gain them market share rather than just alienate anyone who uses a computer for more than facebook, email and youtube.
Well you got two out of the three reasons that I use a computer. All that I am interested in are Facebook, Email, and the various Forums, (the Avatar sites, and Yahoo Groups). That's all that I need to make me happy with a computer.
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That hurt to read in more ways than one.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:53 PM
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I stopped reading at "This has everything to do with the fact that MS is an imitator, not an innovator; everything they have done for 25 years is copy what Apple did 3 years prior."

Do you know where the GUI of the original Mac came from? Apple stole it from Xerox, and so did M$. Get your history straight. Apple has not "innovated" anything. Smartphones? Yeah, Palm came up with that one. First mp3 player was available in 1997. First iPod? 2001. Yep, they sure "predicted" that one.

If you're going to be an obviously biased and uneducated fanboy, do it somewhere else.
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