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View Poll Results: What location is within your reach?
Berlin or (cheaper) near Berlin (Toruk show) 2 50.00%
Cologne, Hamburg or Frankfur but not Berlin (Toruk show) 1 25.00%
North america only 0 0%
Both USA and Germany (if scheduled at different times) 1 25.00%
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:40 PM
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I registered here to publish clone of post that I published on LN forum. Hope I'll blend into this forum later. BTW, original topic here.

As Alan mention here, Cirque du Soleil will show TORUK on European tour. (btw, thanks Alan) Locations and dates below:
Cologne Germany, Lanxess Arena, Oct 25-28, 2018
Hamburg Germany, Barclaycard Arena, Oct 31 - Nov 4, 2018
Berlin Germany, Mercedes-Benz Arena, Nov 7-11, 2018
Frankfurt Germany, Festhalle, Nov 28 - Dec 2, 2018
Zagreb Croatia, Zagreb Arena, Dec 7-9, 2018
Alan also mention that it's possible to organize annual AvatarMeet 2018 around Toruk show. That's great news especially for fans from Europe.
What Do You think about meetup in Germany? For example somewhere near Berlin. Close enough for fans from Czech and Poland.

In my opinion big possibility isn't enough. European meetup around Toruk show should be done regardless of AvatarMeet decision.
  • Plan A: AvatarMeet in Europe.
  • Plan B: AvatarMeet in USA and separate meetup in Europe.
Who from Europe wanna see Toruk next Year?

Available dates for Toruk at Berlin:
  • Wednesday (7 November) at 20:00. That's first spectacle at Berlin. Expect to see Toruk and nothing more from CdS team. IMHO bad option.
  • Thursday (8 November) at 20:00. That's second spectacle at Berlin. I expect that CdS team will found some time for Us before spectacle so We can meet with them too (see video from USA meetup). IMHO the best option for whole week meetup.
  • Friday at 20:00. 5E more expensive for nothing more. IMHO bad option.
  • Saturday at 16:00 or 20:00. IMHO the best option for peoples who cannot take free day from work.
  • Sunday (11 November) at 13:00 or 17:00. Worse for peoples who cannot take free day from work, nothing better for rest. IMHO bad option.
As You can see, We have only 2 days to chose. In that case I vote for Thursday (8 November). If anyone votes for Saturday because of work schedule, We can change that date. IIRC, the USA team make nice (but short) interview with Toruk team when they have 2 shows per day. Anything's possible.
Another places? Sorry, I cannot do that. Only Berlin have a good and cheap transport options to Poland

- All above was My opinion. Waiting for Your opinions.
BTW, who from AvatarMeet 2016 contacts with CdS Toruk team? I would like to know Toruk opinion about Our meetup. Ie. special tour behind scene and maybe group discount.

Dates for meetup:
I prefer to set Toruk at second day of meetup. That will give Us more time to discuss about Toruk. Plus if We chose Thursday, we still have Saturday option to see Toruk again
Next, meetup shouldn't ends at weekend. That's because of traffic, which are greater at weekends that on the rest of a week. Also (A) 11:11 is a national holiday in Poland (higher traffic near Poland-Germany border may occurs) and (B) most transportation companies like to set higher prices for weekend.
That's set meetup to be 6 days (5 nights). Start at 2018-11-07 and finish at 2018-11-12.

- But last paragraph are just my suggestion. Please use them as discussion starter, not as a final decision.

  • Dumb search in google for hotel show me prices between 170 and 320 PLN => 40 to 80 EUR. That's price per day per room, which can be shared between 2 peoples. Bigger room shared by 4-6 peoples will be cheaper and I expect discount for groups. This site (random choice) show me about 550 EUR for 6 peoples (6-bed room) for 6 days. That's 100E per person, about 20E/person/day. Location 1km from the Mercedes-Benz Arena. More info.
  • Toruk itself costs between 60 and 105E, depend on seat and day os the week.
  • Selected hotel offer breakfast for 7E/day and restaurant for everything else (prices not shown). Berlin is a big city and Toruk show is in the middle. I guess that food may cost more than hotel. Because of that We may like to stay in nearest small town and visit Berlin only for Toruk.
  • Other attractions - unknown, but we still have plenty of time.
  • Total: I estimate less than 500E per person (6 days and excluding group discount).

Downsides? Tickets for Toruk are limited. We must decide soon and probably purchase tickets this winter. Can't see any booking option.
Whatever You choose it will be cheaper than just one way ticket to USA.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:56 AM
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A bit off topic, but since I am not yet signed up to LN, I will post it here. There is a suggestion of possibly having separate Avatarmeet events for Europe and the U.S. next year. I would like to pose the possibility that if you don't do that, Yellowstone could be an option for 2019's Avatarmeet.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:06 AM
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I am live in Cologne and buy cards for Toruk at the Lanxess Arena, a meetup would be perfect and like me can meet a few other clan members
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:42 PM
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European meetups always have a problems. It's hard to catch peoples 100km away from me when they speak different language, have different culture, etc. But when Toruk visit Europe, many fans want to saw it. For Us there are two options: organize in small groups and travel to nearest show or organize one meetup that collect most of us at one time and one place.
For Polish and Czech fans Berlin is obvious choice, just need to negotiate place. For French and Netherland Berlin is the farthest place solution.

Why I mention USA and AvatarMeet? For marketing and maybe help with planing. I cannot travel to USA for meetup (money barrier just at flight costs). All I can do is to gather peoples then ask AvatarMeet planning team about their plans. They may chose to join European meetup, create separate meetup or bless both meetups. Hope they chose Europe.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:26 PM
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Ha, Berlin would be absolutely awesome since I live really close and have family there
Never been to Avatar- or other meetups, but I've seen two other Cirque du Soleil shows in the past.
That's the perfect opportunity to see Toruk for me!
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