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Old 03-03-2011, 12:54 AM
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Default I think the word for writing is wrong

As you (should) know, pamrel is the na'vi word for writing. It comes from 'pam'-sound, and 'rel'-image.
I don't like the rooting.
To me, a 'sound-image' implies a phoneme, the smallest discrete unit of speech.
I believe a better choice is 'lurel', or 'word-image'. Doesn't this make better sense? What is writing but word images anyway?
Perhaps a 'sound-image' could be a letter.
Anohter, but not as good, suggestion would be 'tlawkrel', or 'discourse-image', but this word might be better suited for a book.
Can anybody run this past Doc Frommer or Taronyu?
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:52 AM
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Etymology doesn't have to make sense. There are lots of words in English whose meanings and roots don't seem to match perfectly.

Anyway, "sound-image" doesn't strike me as particularly ill-fitting. Written language is a fairly novel concept to the Na'vi. I could see them as conceptualizing it as a way of making images that represent sounds. At least, that's how we humans tend to think when we're first learning to read or write an alphabet-based language. Words are just strings of letters at first, and you read and write by "sounding it out."
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:56 AM
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Letters don't directly correspond with sounds, though. I don't know, I'm pretty much with Sothis here - 'sound-image' makes perfect sense to me. Particularly as written Na'vi aims to be phonetic.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:53 PM
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Exactly - languages don't always directly and literally translate either, even with borrowed words/concepts.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:32 PM
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FYI, there is an official way to suggest words to Dr. Frommer: The Language Expansion Project (you must be a member of learnnavi.org to view it).

It is however extremely unlikely that Dr. Frommer will decide to change a word that has already made it into the dictionary.
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Old 03-14-2011, 09:55 AM
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I think it makes perfect sense. A pamrel- a picture of the sound. :3
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