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Old 05-28-2011, 03:54 AM
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I don't suppose anyone knows what the Na'vi call Polyphemus, do they? I can't seem it find it in the scripts or in the various dictionaries that are floating around.

Also, does anyone know where the term 'tsawke' for 'sun' came from? (or, possibly came from, in terms of the etymology)
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Yeah, I've wondered that myself. I'd also like to know whether they have any mythology associated with it.
Not sure of the etymology of tsawke.
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Yeah, I've wondered that myself. I'd also like to know whether they have any mythology associated with it.
Not sure of the etymology of tsawke.
With 'tsawke', I just don't get it. I can get 'tsaw', meaning big, and 'ke', meaning 'no' or 'no', but it's the biggest thing in the sky, so THAT makes no sense. I can get 'tsa' to also mean 'that', but then that leaves the 'wke', which I don't understand. And the meaning of the word probably at least says SOMETHING about how they view the sun, so it's vexing I can't get it.
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Add this to the list of things James Cameron needs to explain in the novel.
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This would be a good question for Paul Frommer.
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Tsaw means 'that' - which doesn't really work as a compound word - big is tsawl.
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Tsaw means 'that' - which doesn't really work as a compound word - big is tsawl.
Oops, so it is. My bad, I dropped the 'l'.

...still doesn't make sense *pokes tsawke*
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This would be a good question for Paul Frommer.
IIRC it has been tried, and he suggests it's a matter for Cameron. Sadly some aspects of the language are a little out of his control, for obvious reasons.
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IIRC it has been tried, and he suggests it's a matter for Cameron. Sadly some aspects of the language are a little out of his control, for obvious reasons.
Annoying - I'm actually really amazed that it's not official what their name for Polyphemeus is, it's the biggest thing in their sky, and more constant than the sun.

Oh, well, time to make things up should it come up in fic, I suppose.
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