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Old 10-11-2011, 02:04 PM
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Default Why do you want to be a NA'Vi on Pandora?

There have been numerous threads about people here who feel they want to be NA'Vi. This is a huge topic with all the threads on "Would you give up your Earth life" and such.

Now what I would like to know is - what is it that pulls you - us - into that thought. What is it that draws us into that feeling, that we would rather be NA'Vi, that we would rather be on Pandora, that our souls are NA'Vi or all the other similar feelings we share.

I think each of us has different feelings, I'd be interested to hear some. I imagine some want to be NA'Vi because of the NA'Vi culture, others want to be there because of the Ikran or the rainforest, others because it is spacetravel and others because of the bioluminescent plants and again others because of the physiology of the NA'Vi or because of the way they live and relate to each other.

Probably for most of us, all of these things are good reasons to invoke a desire to be a NA'Vi, but I'd like to know which ones are most important to you and if you will, drop a thought about if or how you think this part could become a reality for yourself here and now or within your lifetime and maybe what this motivates you to do.

This is not supposed to be a debate on which reasons are "better" or scientifically more probable but if you can, try to be realistic where applicable. But its ok to also go for dreams and mysticism. Just dont debate it - talk about what YOU think, what YOU want or desire, dont tell others what they should think or feel. Thank you
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:32 PM
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I think if I was to be a Na'vi, it would be because of the way they live and relate to each other - the sense of community they share. The flying, the bioluminescence...that's all great stuff, no doubt about it. But I think this more basic aspect of how they live together is what would be most important to me.

(But for the record if I could leave the Earth right now for Pandora, I don't think I could. There are things I want to get taken care of here first.)
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I've never heard anyone give any reason other than the way they live and relate to each other, actually Those other reasons seem like more of an incentive to take a vacation there, and I love them, but I wouldn't give up my own life for them. Alternatively, I wouldn't want to be na'vi for several reasons. I feel I have a responsibility to Earth, and I would miss the technology too much
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:24 AM
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Everything is better than Earth. The Na'vi have capabilities that are beyond humanity, there are ikran, and there is the bioluminescence. Really though, it's also that I feel that there, I could find a lifemate...
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:32 PM
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I'm too much of having your cake and eating it person, so I'm not really partial to any choices where one must compromise something in order to get something else. As I dabbled with this subject long time ago, I came to the conclusion that the awe of new stuff would fade pretty fast, just like when we grow up and stop wondering all the things we take for granted as adults.

Then again nowhere is there anything that is meaningful by in itself, but there's just stuff all around, and the stuff we subjectively prefer the most is usually the best option to be in. Granted this isn't even an option for any of us, since we are just limited to being here, but imagination can make any option seem preferable to our current state, seeing as we were never asked what we would like, but just being dumped on this particular ball of dirt.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:34 PM
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Avatar didn't make me want to be a na'vi, it made me want to go on a great adventure that i would find fulfilling in ever way.
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If it were anything that made me want to be Na'vi, it was simply their way of life, and in the kind of place they were living.

The bioluminescence is cool indeed, extremely beautiful... But we have that on this planet, to a degree. I've seen it myself. And it's equally as magical.

Yes, like Aquaplant said, we're "confined" to living here, but honestly, i'm not bitter about that one tiny bit. Because for all those people out there who say Pandora is amazing - I agree. But so is this planet, in it's purest form. Also as IJ said, this planet... it's something you *can* live with, you can touch it, smell it, feel it. You breathe it in every day, but you can also have a *real* adventure, rather than an armchair one, you just need to be in the right place, and have the right will and sight to do so... Something that no amount of wishing can ever be said the same of for Pandora. (Sure, there may be a planet *like* Pandora out there, somewhere... But I hope you get the point i'm trying to get across.)

The Na'vi have something i'm struggling to find however - a life of such adventure, in said places... Perhaps in this place, such a thing must be searched for or made, instead of being a given.
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I suppose I would want to be a Na'vi on Pandora so that I would be able to fully connect with the forest, the animals, with Eywa and with the culture of the Na'vi. It's a bit different when people try to experience Pandora as a human/avatar..It's not quite the same, like being in a bubble and you can't quite feel, taste and smell everything around you.
With that said if I had to give up living as a human on Earth to do it I wouldn't want to be a Na'vi on Pandora. I have so much more to learn here, and to experience.
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Actually, just an Avatar driver.

Remember, Avatars are not Na'vi...save for certain circumstances.

Why?

I'm goddamn biology major, that's why. This moon is crawling with an entirely new phylogenetic tree, and an undisturbed ecosystem to boot.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:42 AM
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Thanks for your answers so far. Very interesting
Remember, my question was not IF you would do it (that was covered elsewhere), but what it is that attracts you thinking about it. What is your attraction to it, and I think most of us feel. The question I try to ask is not so much about the NA'Vi or about Pandora or even about Avatar itself, but about ourselves and about what it is that Avatar, Pandora, the NA'Vi have invoked in us - what we found that we lack, want, desire and maybe to what all this has or will motivate us.

So for me personally it is like this:
The NA'Vi posess a very strong sense of community, a connection between each other and the world around them. They do not try to put themselves high about others - neither others of their clan, their tribe, their species, the other species. They listen to the forest instead of shouting into it. Their goal is to live a good and happy and exciting life and they succeed in doing so without the need for material wealth and actually see some of it as running contrary to that goal. Roads, schools, bluejeans, light beer - all this does not compare to what is lost in creating it and none of these brings more happiness than what vanishes in return. They have a relationship with the other beings on their world - plants, animals that is beautiful - some of it is made by a physical bond, but that is just part of it - they respect and love the Thanator or the animals they hunt even though they do not make a physical bond with it.
This sense of self, this understanding of oneself, others, the world and its connections is what attracts me most.
The next thing is the natural beauty of Pandora, but of course this comes and is linked to the first part. While Pandora certainly is exotic and thus holds many marvels, in my eyes Earth is very similar when it comes to its beauty. An Earth that is treated with the same attidute as the NA'Vi have towards life and their world that is. An Earth that has vast savannahs and large old growth trees and coral reefs and oak forests and buffalo and sturgeon and vast flocks of birds.
The other things - vibrant bioluminescence, NA'Vi physiology, Ikran, floating mountains are very cool and do touch my soul, but they are not what makes a constant impact on what I think.

And this is what for me came from all this - I think differently - I look for the NA'Vi ways on this world in our species. My imagination of "Pandora on Earth" does not hinge on flying mountains, but on the way people treat each other and the world, on the connectedness, cooperation and relationship. Yes, I do strive to fly a hangglider to get a little bit of Ikran here and I certainly dream of being reborn ina world with floating mountains and giant planets in the sky, but what would all of these things be worth if there is not that sense of being part of it - truely part of it...
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Where do I begin? If I were to be a na'vi and live on Pandora, it would be because I feel at home. I relate to the na'vi in so many ways: The way they treat animals and the environment, The way their society is community-based, plus the beauty of the bioluminescense and their culture wich is so interesting and colorful. Plus the na'vi are hot.
I mean, when I saw avatar, I wanted to be Neytiri; not only because she's hot, which every girl would want to be, but because I feel so much life her personality-wise. She is natural, beautiful, caring and playful. To me, she reflected everything I wanted to be. Plus I honestly don't feel at home where I am right now. Going to Pandora is my biggest dream, which btw, I'm gonna make darn sure I go to when it gets built in animal kingdom!
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I've never heard anyone give any reason other than the way they live and relate to each other, actually Those other reasons seem like more of an incentive to take a vacation there, and I love them, but I wouldn't give up my own life for them.

I would. But to me, this isn't the only reason. The first moment Avatar really resonated with me emotionally was when Jake woke up for the first time from using his Avatar and saw his legs. Now, I'm not a paraplegic and I never have been. But I've (all of the following were temporary) lost my ability to walk under my power, gone blind, and had my kidneys fail. I'm going to have to spend the rest of my life with arthritis and as soon as the current semester ends, I'm going to have to have a part of my tear ducts cut out (both of them). I've had numerous cases of pneumonia, I've had swine flu, etc, etc. I would very much like to have a happy active, HEALTHY life. And IMO, the Na'vi as portrayed were a personification of that.


There have been discussions on various forums asking [sarcastic voice]if you like the Na'vi so much, why don't you live like them?[/sarcastic voice]

If I was capable of that, I'd certainly consider it.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:21 AM
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Eywa would be reason number one. Then tsahaluy (sp?) because that mental connection is better than anything on Earth. Then the companionship of other Na'vi. Then the ikran, I don't think I could get sick of that, especially because you connect with your ikran. Then the forest and the bio luminesence. I mean I don't even get bored of the forests here, I would leave for Pandora just for the bioluminesence and the forest.
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For me, the number one reason would be the sense of community between Na'vi, and then tsahaylu (@Theorist: that's the spelling). And the bioluminescent forest, of course.
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I would. But to me, this isn't the only reason. The first moment Avatar really resonated with me emotionally was when Jake woke up for the first time from using his Avatar and saw his legs. Now, I'm not a paraplegic and I never have been. But I've (all of the following were temporary) lost my ability to walk under my power, gone blind, and had my kidneys fail. I'm going to have to spend the rest of my life with arthritis and as soon as the current semester ends, I'm going to have to have a part of my tear ducts cut out (both of them). I've had numerous cases of pneumonia, I've had swine flu, etc, etc. I would very much like to have a happy active, HEALTHY life. And IMO, the Na'vi as portrayed were a personification of that.
Kind of reminds me of what Clarke has said

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Eywa would be reason number one. Then tsahaluy (sp?) because that mental connection is better than anything on Earth. Then the companionship of other Na'vi. Then the ikran, I don't think I could get sick of that, especially because you connect with your ikran. Then the forest and the bio luminesence. I mean I don't even get bored of the forests here, I would leave for Pandora just for the bioluminesence and the forest.
Wow You got me. I mean, I have heard these reasons before, but never in a way that you'd be a na'vi for each alone.

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and then tsahaylu (@Theorist: that's the spelling).
Not only is "tsaheylu" phonetically correct, but Frommer has confirmed that it is the correct spelling.
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