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Massive wealth inequality isn't implausible, but yeah, I can't really see how paying Jake X decades of vet benefits can be cheaper than fixing his spine once, even with American-esque pricing shenanigans. Maybe Selfridge's short-sightedness has infected the accountants.

You can't have relativistic time dilation (as appears to be case on the Venture Star, IIR the math C) and FTL communications without things becoming really weird: the FTL radio works as a time machine if you set it up correctly.

That also bothers me a little too. Having the combination of the massive energy sources needed for expensive-but-doable interstellar flight and not being able to provide a high quality of life for everyone is somewhat disingenous, and only makes much sense if the general free market is no longer functioning for some reason.
Yes apparently we will have no economists in the future to tell the RDA that taking what i call the ,,Uranus Option"(He-3 Skimmers FTW)is far more efficient than mining room-temperature Superconductors on ALPHA CENTAURI 4.4 LIGHTYEARS away
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lumpinger96, I think I'll call you Ultra Clarke.
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Oi, my arguments are more coherent. (Also, it makes me think of Power Rangers too much)
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Generally I think the level of technology is not realistic because I think if the economy goes bad and really "all green is gone", the challenges would be incredible and colorful displays would be of less concern. I mean, where do they want to get their food from and such. The current trends will end in disaster if nothing changes fundamentally.

BUT assuming that it somehow goes on until that time I could imagine that these technologies would exist. Some might then exist for a long time and not be new to the people there but still in use.
You can see some sort of cyborgs in the CE, but not a lot of biotech stuff (like implanting some stem cells or such to fix a spine). What really bugged me A LOT is that they simply used regular 2010 lab equipment in their labs. Seriously - we even have more sophisticated things in the present day space station and at least miniaturization would be something I would expect to be of high value when setting up a "Hells Gate". I recognized a dozen of the machines in the labs there from the lab I am working in here, there was at least a titration machine and I think I spotted an ion chromatography. They used regular pipettes (and Grace mistreats them - "ouch"), probably Eppendorfs and Schott glass bottles alongside 3-D videoscreens. I think that was unrealistic and probably was done for convenience and for recognizability ("ah there are pipettes, this is a bio-lab").
What I find completely unrealistic is that whole spaceship with the mining operation. There is NO WAY a spaceship can reach Alpha centauri in that short time without some "Star Trek Tech". And there is NO WAY it would pay off to send huge trucks and heavy duty machines for open pit mining through space. If a civilization can build that kind of spaceship, they can probably also build some smarter machines, that dig tunnels to extract ore, use some kind of new materials like carbon fibres or whatever instead of steel monster trucks probably driven with gasoline or diesel fuel (which by that time has to be a rare commodity). That does not really make sense.

But I think the point was to draw a visual comparison to our times, to our labs on Earth, to the open pit mining and heavy machines digging them right here.

I think that the science in avatar is comfortably realistic why should pippets go away anywa?are they going to replaced by what? Antigravity liqiud transporter machines or any other kind of Star Trek soft low-class SF magitek junk? No sir, i believe not.

I think personally that cameron approach of taking current technology and projecting it into the future by making it more badass(Double Rotor Helicopter, Six-wheeled Jeep)and adding realistic new Tech (Kilometer-long Starship, 4m Tall Mecha) is quite forward-thinking. This approach of futuristic Realism makes the whole sci/tech side of the movie both familiar and novel. He made a good job at that one
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I think that the science in avatar is comfortably realistic why should pippets go away anywa?are they going to replaced by what? Antigravity liqiud transporter machines or any other kind of Star Trek soft low-class SF magitek junk? No sir, i believe not.

I think personally that cameron approach of taking current technology and projecting it into the future by making it more badass(Double Rotor Helicopter, Six-wheeled Jeep)and adding realistic new Tech (Kilometer-long Starship, 4m Tall Mecha) is quite forward-thinking. This approach of futuristic Realism makes the whole sci/tech side of the movie both familiar and novel. He made a good job at that one
I think he underplayed the alieness of technology that powerful. When you can pilot Avatars, normal assumptions about how tech works suddenly stop working.
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I think he underplayed the alieness of technology that powerful. When you can pilot Avatars, normal assumptions about how tech works suddenly stop working.

I personnaly think that we saw only a fraction of Human technology in AD 2154.
Hells gate was just a small outpost on the ass-end of nowhere,the borderlands of the Human Reach, their might be really cool s*** on the Homeworld Earth.
Stuff like Nannite assemlers, Intelligent AI, Transhumans and Stuff
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