Just let this thread die. You've humiliated furries enough HNM.

Can I just say HNM, I made it pretty clear that if I thought my comments were hurtful that someone should tell ne. I'm telling you now, as a friend that what you posted was hurtful to me... Jack, Justin and the many other members who are furries here.

Also HNM, it has actually been shown that what you watch and like as a kid influences who you are as an adult. I LOVED TLK2 as a kid, it still is one of my fav animated films of all time... It's wrong to stereotype 'Japanese people' as all bring annoying, just as it is saying Furries wreck everything, that's hurtful HNM. You've stepped over the line and shot someone.

For the first time, I'm getting pissed at someone here on ToS. And, it happens to be an Admin of the forum talking **** about some members. Shame on you HumanNoMore! :(

And since when has the whole furry fandom all been a big fetish? In all my furryness I can tell you that I don't have such fetish.

*calming down 10 minutes*

Hmm. I haven't thought of Na'vi as furries, probably just because they weren't made to be furries. (Or who knows? ;)) But maybe I need to reconsider this.. In the end Na'vi have much animalistic features.

Seriously, man, keep it civil. The tone of some of your posts does come across as very hostile, especially coming from an admin.

This is why people shouldn't give a damn about other people's personal interests like this. All it does is lead to squabbles.

Life sucks, and if someone finds something that makes it just an inkling brighter, good for them.

Que Sera Sera.

I'm just going to note here that while I mentioned the na'vi are furries, my argument came off wrong. What I meant to say is:

Avatar in it's own right has it's OWN FANDOM (you guys) but it's integrated in some regards to other fandoms (furries) however these two are RARELY put together, and rarely have the same members (obviously this site does). Much like how I mentioned lion king.

The Lion King has it's OWN fansites, it's own fanbase, most of it is just about the lion king, then you get other 'furry' sites dedicated to the lion king, or see the lion king on a furry website. The same is for avatar obviously.

It has many different sections of a fanbase.


Avatar IS NOT DIRECTLY FURRY. IT HAS IT'S OWN FANBASE, MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT FURRIES. However it is also part of FURRY WEBSITES and has fans who ARE FURRIES.

I am with you here, Lyra. ;)

I agree with Lyra. The reason why it is apart of the Furry fandom is, because they do have feline like features. You can check that out in the Survival Guide. I can post the page number later. Which would make them anthropomorphic. How I see it is, the Na'vi are equally an alien species and an anthropomorphic species. Not just strictly one or the other.

The Na'vi are both anthropomorphic (they are non-humans with human characteristics) and alien.

Neither does necessarily make them furry though - it all depends on who you ask.

This is what I've said all along.

That said, an apology is in order. I really have no problem with furries at all if it's what they want to be interested in - I'm just not myself. I know I've said some things here that some people have taken offence to and I regret that. I don't get offended by furries actually trying to adapt anything to their interests - there are so many different people that do that in different ways. I just don't like it when people then imply that other people are by connection. That is really all. I know there are some on here and I have nothing against them, personally or otherwise. I've overreacted to a few things on this thread but I also will not sit there and take every implication people care to make.
I hope you can understand. So, for what it's worth, I apologise for what I've said.
I've really not had a great time of things recently and perhaps I've taken what people have said badly in some cases. I really don't have any problem with anyone here for their interests... I've reacted badly to things in this thread that I shouldn't have and regret that :'(

I <3 you too HNM. (Haha, I can even troll with love :D)

I'm thankful you apologized HNM. I really am, I understand that sometimes in the debate section things can become crazy really really quickly.


Now let's get back to what the topic is about:

It's a misconception that furries are actually attracted to anthro animals. What ACTUALLY makes them a furry, in my eyes is that they are PART of a furry community and actively take part in it (e.g write Fanfiction)

I could easy join sofurry.com right now, and write 1000's of fanfiction for a film, it doesn't have to be a romance, it could be action etc and it would still in essence make you a furry.

(also Eltu, happy to clear up the issue on if avatar is furry or not, I really do need to reword things more often :D.)

Basically, what I don't understand is that some people feel they need to 'flame' or 'discredit' furries because they are part of a community, write and draw etc etc. It's no worse than me coming here and writing avatar fanfiction and drawing pictures of Neytiri...

Noooooo

Zombie furry thread!

/me runs to bunker w/ flamethrowers and shotguns

I think I can help you understand. The main reason people tend to project hatred towards furries is because they see it as an outward expression of a sexual fetish. Now, I'm sure there are plenty of furries out there who do it purely for the aesthetic appeal of being an animal person, but you can't ignore the sexual aspect when every site devoted to that fandom is loaded with porn along with its clean images. This is what most people on the internet tend to be exposed to(and this only), whether on chans or elsewhere.

It's hard to define the furry fandom as either harmless obsession or fetish, mainly because there are people who identify themselves as furries who use the fandom for both aspects. I'm sure you've encountered people who are in it for the porn, and to society or at least the internet community this tends to be all they see(on 4chan, etc) and not the other stuff. Being exposed to buttloads of porn that can be pretty vile in some cases and nothing else makes it pretty easy to assume that that is what the entire fandom is based upon.

As for me, I suppose being obsessed with a type of humanoid being and wanting to have intimate relations with them goes hand in hand. I don't think that being attracted to an anthropomorph is any more perverted than being attracted to a Na'vi. I've changed my views a lot lately.

TL;DR: So many people hate furries because the majority of furry-related content they come across is sexual and they view it as a bestial fetish that a group of people are flaunting.*

*There are other reasons, this just seems to be the most prominent one I've come across.

I find that ironic because 85% of the internet is porn anyway.

There is a reason the majority of people who know about furries know about them from the internet, I think that the popularity of the pron has lead it to be the aspect of the furry fandom that everyone is exposed to, hence why they hate it.