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Yes, this is a debate thread, if you want just a place where furries can 'talk' use #furry on wyldryde.org. (advertising is fun.)
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/voteforpresident |
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hello little guy! it's the sweety man coming. Fook, look at this place! Thomas! Thomas keep the gun on him! He's definetely a criminal!
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Uggghhhhh.........
I never suggested segregation. Segregation is when one group forbids the use of their facilities by a group that they deem to be inferior, because they don't deserve superior services/utilities/goods to be available to them. Often times, if the "inferior" group disobeys these rules, they are incriminated. I was just saying that maybe furries should have their own mini-site within deviant art, since there are so many there already. They could call it "AnthroArt" or something, and maybe this way trolls would be easier to single out, since they would all be trying to get after people in the mini site if they wanted to troll furries. They would still be free to do whatever they wanted on the normal site, so it isn't segregation. Also, maturity? Really? I'm sorry, but like many people I find large images of sexualized anthropomorphic animals inherently disturbing. |
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Index -- Fur Affinity [dot] net SoFurry.com There are already so many of your "Mini-sites", more arn't going to happen. People are going to post things you deem innapropriate on websites you think shouldn't have them. Its called the Internet. Get over it. |
Taken from Merriam-Webster. If you wish to dispute with them, be my guest.
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The word, alone, does mean separation. However, when applied to social scenarios, it means something more than physical separation, such as the segregation that occurred during the holocaust, Apartheid, and the period of slavery in the United States. Perhaps "Social Segregation" would have been a better word choice when you tried accusing me of that a few pages ago. Nice try, though. Quote:
I was actually trying to make a helpful suggestion that would make both sides happy. If furries weren't so easily provoked by everything, stupid arguments like this wouldn't start. Also, I never actually said that furry art was inappropriate. I just said that some people really hate it, and would rather not have to see it if they had that choice. Just today, I decided to visit the DeviantArt page of a favorite Flash artist of mine. Instead of the expected images of his work, I got a nice big picture of a scantily clad furry. I didn't want to see a jailbait squirrel girl posing, I wanted to see pictures of his 2D sprite artwork. And you know what? I'm not gonna get over it. If I'm watching T.V. and I happen to come across Oprah, am I gonna "get over it"? No, I'm gonna change the goddamn channel, because I can't stand Oprah. I'm done with this thread......it's just getting derailed from what it was it was supposed to be about, and I don't want to be on bad terms with other members over stupid **** like this. |
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Doesnt' really matter what you think it means. It's been defined as separation. Social segregation, racial segregation. It's all still segregation. But I'll say separation from now on. Happy? ;) You're trying to separate some art from the other art. And when theres nothing NSFW about it, I don't see the problem. Quote:
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Did you enter his gallery, see the furry thumbnail, then "accidentally" click on it? Did it go a little something like this? http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5...hebeerahhh.jpg Quote:
You make even stranger analogies than I do. Changing the channel /is/ getting over it. Do the same on the Internet. Oh no, furry porn. *close tab* Quote:
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Just read the first page on this thread and i'd like to say... Like it or not the na'vi are furries. Want to know why? Because Their art is on various furry sites, I'd like to think that artists who draw furries know more than some of you guys about their own fandom.
Not trolling, just making a point. Further proof of this is on 'SoFurry' when searching for AVATAR fanfics. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7147976/furries.png |
I disagree, Lyra.
Na'vi are both furries and not furries, it's entirely up to personal definition. One cannot say "this is a furry", since it varies depending on who you ask. Some people will say "I see Na'vi as furries" - and that's entirely correct. Some people will say "I do not see Na'vi as furries", and that is just as right. It's nothing else than a matter of individual opinions. |
But seriously, the above is proof that the COMMUNITY of furries itself sees it as part of their fandom (same as the Lion King, and Digimon.) All are entirely different concepts and things, but they still fit into the fandom and have been accepted. I think most of you in the avatar fandom are just scared to admit that you may be called a furry because you like avatar.
(Also, Just want to state here, if you think my views are getting heated, please contact me and tell me... Before it gets out hand!) also, according to furry wiki, this is a furry http://en.wikifur.com/w/images/thumb...0px-Furry2.jpg therefore avatar is obviously furry. |
Furries. Ruin. Everything.
You can find furries creating their fetishised version of anything (rule 34 at its worst...) - it doesn't mean the original subject has anything to do with their fetish. The fact that furries see children's movies and TV shows as 'part of their fandom' is just weird - if they really have a fetish for those, then that's their business, but there are children who like those and have no interest in sex with a humanoid animal - they are not furries. Furries are an unintended audience for 99% of things. |
TBH I don't really give a tinkers damn what anyone thinks about any of this either way.
Whatever makes life easier. |
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You need to remember that just because all furries are anthropomorphic doesn't mean that everything that is anthropomorphic is a furry. A fandom can't simply come through and redefine characters in movies like the Lion King that have been around years before them. Also: Egyptian gods, wtf man, wtf. |
I completely agree with Devourment.
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I could ask the same about people who try to justify their interest by claiming things are part of it. I know they they may want to incorporate it into their interests and don't care so much (there is far, FAR worse stuff on the internet...), but I do object to attempts to connect anyone who likes that subject as 'a furry' in some misguided attempt at justification.
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Just let this thread die. You've humiliated furries enough HNM.
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Can I just say HNM, I made it pretty clear that if I thought my comments were hurtful that someone should tell ne. I'm telling you now, as a friend that what you posted was hurtful to me... Jack, Justin and the many other members who are furries here.
Also HNM, it has actually been shown that what you watch and like as a kid influences who you are as an adult. I LOVED TLK2 as a kid, it still is one of my fav animated films of all time... It's wrong to stereotype 'Japanese people' as all bring annoying, just as it is saying Furries wreck everything, that's hurtful HNM. You've stepped over the line and shot someone. |
For the first time, I'm getting pissed at someone here on ToS. And, it happens to be an Admin of the forum talking **** about some members. Shame on you HumanNoMore! :(
And since when has the whole furry fandom all been a big fetish? In all my furryness I can tell you that I don't have such fetish. *calming down 10 minutes* Hmm. I haven't thought of Na'vi as furries, probably just because they weren't made to be furries. (Or who knows? ;)) But maybe I need to reconsider this.. In the end Na'vi have much animalistic features. |
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This is why people shouldn't give a damn about other people's personal interests like this. All it does is lead to squabbles.
Life sucks, and if someone finds something that makes it just an inkling brighter, good for them. Que Sera Sera. |
I'm just going to note here that while I mentioned the na'vi are furries, my argument came off wrong. What I meant to say is:
Avatar in it's own right has it's OWN FANDOM (you guys) but it's integrated in some regards to other fandoms (furries) however these two are RARELY put together, and rarely have the same members (obviously this site does). Much like how I mentioned lion king. The Lion King has it's OWN fansites, it's own fanbase, most of it is just about the lion king, then you get other 'furry' sites dedicated to the lion king, or see the lion king on a furry website. The same is for avatar obviously. It has many different sections of a fanbase. Avatar IS NOT DIRECTLY FURRY. IT HAS IT'S OWN FANBASE, MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT FURRIES. However it is also part of FURRY WEBSITES and has fans who ARE FURRIES. |
I am with you here, Lyra. ;)
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I agree with Lyra. The reason why it is apart of the Furry fandom is, because they do have feline like features. You can check that out in the Survival Guide. I can post the page number later. Which would make them anthropomorphic. How I see it is, the Na'vi are equally an alien species and an anthropomorphic species. Not just strictly one or the other.
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The Na'vi are both anthropomorphic (they are non-humans with human characteristics) and alien.
Neither does necessarily make them furry though - it all depends on who you ask. |
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That said, an apology is in order. I really have no problem with furries at all if it's what they want to be interested in - I'm just not myself. I know I've said some things here that some people have taken offence to and I regret that. I don't get offended by furries actually trying to adapt anything to their interests - there are so many different people that do that in different ways. I just don't like it when people then imply that other people are by connection. That is really all. I know there are some on here and I have nothing against them, personally or otherwise. I've overreacted to a few things on this thread but I also will not sit there and take every implication people care to make. I hope you can understand. So, for what it's worth, I apologise for what I've said. I've really not had a great time of things recently and perhaps I've taken what people have said badly in some cases. I really don't have any problem with anyone here for their interests... I've reacted badly to things in this thread that I shouldn't have and regret that :'( |
I <3 you too HNM. (Haha, I can even troll with love :D)
I'm thankful you apologized HNM. I really am, I understand that sometimes in the debate section things can become crazy really really quickly. Now let's get back to what the topic is about: It's a misconception that furries are actually attracted to anthro animals. What ACTUALLY makes them a furry, in my eyes is that they are PART of a furry community and actively take part in it (e.g write Fanfiction) I could easy join sofurry.com right now, and write 1000's of fanfiction for a film, it doesn't have to be a romance, it could be action etc and it would still in essence make you a furry. (also Eltu, happy to clear up the issue on if avatar is furry or not, I really do need to reword things more often :D.) Basically, what I don't understand is that some people feel they need to 'flame' or 'discredit' furries because they are part of a community, write and draw etc etc. It's no worse than me coming here and writing avatar fanfiction and drawing pictures of Neytiri... |
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Zombie furry thread! /me runs to bunker w/ flamethrowers and shotguns |
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It's hard to define the furry fandom as either harmless obsession or fetish, mainly because there are people who identify themselves as furries who use the fandom for both aspects. I'm sure you've encountered people who are in it for the porn, and to society or at least the internet community this tends to be all they see(on 4chan, etc) and not the other stuff. Being exposed to buttloads of porn that can be pretty vile in some cases and nothing else makes it pretty easy to assume that that is what the entire fandom is based upon. As for me, I suppose being obsessed with a type of humanoid being and wanting to have intimate relations with them goes hand in hand. I don't think that being attracted to an anthropomorph is any more perverted than being attracted to a Na'vi. I've changed my views a lot lately. TL;DR: So many people hate furries because the majority of furry-related content they come across is sexual and they view it as a bestial fetish that a group of people are flaunting.* *There are other reasons, this just seems to be the most prominent one I've come across. |
I find that ironic because 85% of the internet is porn anyway.
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There is a reason the majority of people who know about furries know about them from the internet, I think that the popularity of the pron has lead it to be the aspect of the furry fandom that everyone is exposed to, hence why they hate it.
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