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Walas00 03-15-2010 06:05 PM

Lesson 4 - Lenition, Or "Softening Words".
 
In this lesson you will learn some very important things.

Lenition
Lenition is "making a letter softer".
Some prefixes cause lenition, which makes the word easier to pronounce.
You may think this is just made to make your life more miserable. But you will learn that this actually makes things much more simplier.

But what does it mean that a prefix causes lenition?
Here's a very simple example:
ay+ (prefix standing for "quantinity" - explained in further lessons ; the + sign tells us that this prefix causes lenition (normal prefixes have a '-' sign))
(plural prefix - the quantinity is great, we cannot specify an exact number - stands for "many")

Let's take a word Tsmukan - brother.
With ay+ prefix we can create a word "brothers" (as in "more than one brother, not sure how many thou").

aytsmukan is a wrong example of using the prefix, since we did not do the lenition of the root word. (Yes, Eltu did that like twice in his "news" posts on these forums :) )
aysmukan is the right word

Where did the "t" go?
ts has been transformed to s due to lenition.
Again, do not freak out. This is a good thing! Try to say "aysmukan", and them "aytsmukan". Which sounds better? (remember about the right pronouncing)

So what's lenition anyway?
Lenition affects a letter (or two) in a word, changing them to another letter.
Which letter does it affect? In the example above (with ay+) it affects the left side.
Since ay+ is a prefix (ay-WORD) we put it before the word (a suffix would be +ay, an infix would be <ay>).
So:

tsmukan (brother)
ay+tsmukan - before lenition
aysmukan - after lenition, ready word (brothers)

tsmukan-ru - before lenition
tsmukanru - after lenition, ready word (to my brother - explained in later lessons)
There is no last-letter change here, because "n" isn't lenitiated.


How do I know what letters should get lenitated?
There is a really simple table-thing you'll have to memorise:

px, kx, tx -> p, k, t
p, t/ts, k -> f, s, h
' -> (letter removed - those "letters" occur in some Na'vi words)

Basicaly if there's a px tx or kx on the side where the prefix is added - change the end from pk/tx/kx to p/t/k (remove the x).
The most important lenition rules are "p -> f, t/ts -> s". Without them you shouldn't go any further.

Hope this lesson was explained good enough.
Planned to cover "how many?" subject here... but this is enough for one lesson :D

tsmukan -> aysmukan (brother -> brothers)
tsmukan -> ay+tsmukan (+ marks lenition!)

Quick-link To Lesson 5- http://www.tree-of-souls.com/navi_la...ns_number.html

KalaKuival 03-15-2010 08:37 PM

Just wanna add that 4+ plural is really better to say without ay+ in words that need lenition...
Tsmukan - smukan (brother - brothers)
Palulukan - falulukan (thanator - thanators)
Tukru - sukru (spear - spears) ... and so on...:P

Walas00 03-15-2010 09:23 PM

Yup, but if you use "ay+" it's just easier to recognise the plurarity :)

Wind12 08-27-2013 11:30 PM

Well this may be where I hit a wall that table has me confused, are the bold letters what get removed ? Or is it the thin letters that are being removed ?
Also I have trouble seeing the difference between ts, and s since I say "send and city" the same way in terms of the s sound, oh well I am def. a skxawng lol.

TireaAean 08-28-2013 12:11 AM

Ok this is a majorly old thread and a couple things in here I see aren't quite right (like tsmukanru, "lenitated", the fact that adding suffixes on the end has nothing to do with lenition). But at the time I guess we didn't really know.

check out this post on a Na'vi Beginners Lesson blog I write over at http://tirea.learnnavi.org ;)

And no, I don't believe you are a skxawng! :)

Send and city? of course those are the s sound. The ts is literally a t and s at the same time. It's like the hi-hat noise when beatboxing, or the sound at the end of the word pants, cats, and bits, etc. In Na'vi, that ts sound can come at the beginning of a word unlike in English where it mostly comes at the end. S of course is the same in pretty much every language.

Wind12 08-28-2013 02:57 AM

Thank you for all of your help, had some "wutso" so now I am going to start reading again :). OK, I knew it was supposed to be different, but on the Learn Na'vi page it had "send" as the English example for "ts" , once again, Irayo for the explanation :) :)

TireaAean 08-28-2013 03:07 AM

ehh?? I'll go change that! send is a horrible example of ts! :O

EDIT: There we go! Phonetics page updated, with much better examples all around. Also, those are just best approximates (for mostly the vowels and a few consonants anyway) as it changes depending on where you're from.

Thanks so much for pointing this out! :D

Wind12 08-28-2013 03:28 AM

No problem :) :) I thought it was me not getting something :)

TireaAean 08-28-2013 03:30 AM

Nope, it was whoever originally wrote that page not getting something :D :) Yay for making the site better and more accurate! :D

Wind12 08-28-2013 03:32 AM

I can say I accomplished something today!!! well time do do some reading ;)

TireaAean 08-28-2013 03:35 AM

yep! Alrighty then. Seeya around. :)

Wind12 08-28-2013 04:35 AM

Okay before I call it a night I am going to try something...
Oel yamom wutsoti

:)

TireaAean 08-28-2013 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 180126)
Okay before I call it a night I am going to try something...
Oel yamom wutsoti

:)

Txantsan!

Looks perfectly good to me. :D :na'vi:

Wind12 08-29-2013 01:29 AM

Irayo !!
Okay I am going to try this

Oeru Lu merina'

TireaAean 08-29-2013 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 180128)
Irayo !!
Okay I am going to try this

Oeru Lu merina'

"I have two seeds."

Perfect! :D


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