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My annoying rant
hey everyone!!
I wanted to start this topic and i hope this is the right place for it, but I have been having certain issues and I am thinking people are getting annoyed by it, and I am truly sorry if I am, cause I like everyone here and its a great community.. all the fangirls and some of the guys that have come into the fandom, I cannot help myself when I get into a certain rant. I dont care when this happens and I just say what is on my mind without even being able to control it. I am talking about looks.. I hate when someone mentions anything about looks and how to look better and stuff.. anything to do with it. It is no one's fault, just mine, cause it angers me and there's nothing I can do about it. Anything about fashion or heels or straightened hair or weight or makeup... it all angers me.. cause women are pressured enough as it is by society and even by commercials and tv shows for Pete's sake.. and EVEN movies and music vids... they all look the same and all have the same fashion sense and stuff, so sorry to anyone who likes fashion, but to me, it truly is a horrible thing. Fashion makes it so everyone has to wear what is considered "cool" and in style, they can't wear their own clothes cause then they are ridiculed by society and it's not "cool" i DONT agree with this and it is completely horrid. Everyone is entitled to their own look and style, no one or nothing should tell them otherwise!! This world is supposed to be about diversity, and yet people are walking around... and it seems like attack of the clones! I have never seen so many people look the same in my life.. its getting worse! I think people are being brainwashed into thinking what is cool and what isn't so.. anyone readin this.. try to be your own person.. dont try to impress people cause they think its cool. Be yourself...thats the best thing you can do! and this reminds me, that show What Not to Wear is a disgrace to us women and even men. Telling us what to wear and what to spend.. expensive clothing? we have ENOUGH to pay for, so they should just go along and leave us the hell alone!! Let us be our own boss of our own lives and styles.. that is all.. |
I couldn't agree more alleycat. For many years I have been told that you need a makeover, lose a bunch of weight, etc. I have always had a poor self-image. Well, not always. Before I reached puberty, I was fine. I didn't think of myself as ugly, etc but once I hit puberty and the rest of my class hadn't, I was a subject of ridicule. I used to walk to school in those days and on my way to school and back I was chased by boys who would insult me the whole way home. They said many terrible things about me, how ugly I was, how I was toxic waste, etc. It didn't get any better. When I was in middle school and the early years of high school, it got worse. I was teased and ridiculed all the time because of the shape of my nose, my hair, my weight, etc.
It tortured me :(. I tried in middle school to dress like everyone else but my parents didn't have a lot of money so I ended up getting the styles everyone was wearing, months later when no one was wearing them. Eventually, I tried not to care but it did alot of damage to myself. Even to this day I deal with it. For years, I thought that the reason no man was interested in me as a woman to date/marry, etc was because I was ugly. I still have issues with this. As for as fashion, I don't care anymore about that. I wear what I want to wear and I don't care for any of the "latest" fashions. It is terrible that people judge based on looks. I also agree about the show, "what not to wear". They seem to think that everyone needs a posh, NYC type of wardrobe. Most of us are not on that kind of budget. |
thank you for replying back !!
I am SOO sorry to hear about thiss.. and i was sad when i read it :( I cannot begin to BELIEVE the crap they were doing to you just cause of what you look like.. Ive seen a pic of you, and you are beautiful! you are so real and so natural, and it seemd like you found the man of your dreams cause you got married!! and that's the thing! obviously this guy doesnt care about what you look like, cause to him, you are beautiful! and to all of us too! this is why i hate society, cause its like the are basing every man's opinions of beauty on one kind of look.. which isnt so! once agian, i feel bad about your childhood.. it wasnt fair! those kids should of respected you better! society starts for us when we are really young, and to wear certain clothes is just dumb.. i think us that have been picked on as kids are hit by it more.. and we rebel against it alot more.. |
Be yourself ally, that is soo true. Don't let people put limitations on you, express yourself, no matter how you do it theres always something uniform about society, and you have the best character because you decide to think otherwise. Hehe i fell in love with your personality, and that's all that matters :D
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When I think of fashion, I think of something different, something that expresses the person... two of my female cousins are highly into fasion, they wear some new funky stuff I haven't seen on anyone else, but it looks really good, and they love it because people say it gives them differnet ideas... they switch stuff around with each other, try new combinations, things like that... I like fasion that expresses who you are (well I guess thats what fasion is... you in with the crowd? cool get what everyone else is getting. Want to be different (like me)? wear something not everybody else wears and not care about what others think)
Thanks for this rant ally... and it is true about women... so much crap and BS from this world are thrust upon you ladies that its unfair... TV ads, shows, magazine ads, articles, music videos... it's not right. Guys? Ehhh kind of but not as much as girls. My heart goes out to all you women, you are good enough, don't let the lies of this world pull you in |
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Awww, thank you alleycat. Yes, my husband thinks I am the most beautiful woman ever. It is still difficult to see me the way he does but I can't complain. Those terrible memories of my childhood will be with me for a long time but I do know that I am loved. And that is all that matters :). |
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aww that is so sweet rapunzel! i am so happy for you!! and i wish you an amazing life with this respectful and deep man! :D Cyan is right, you do deserve to be loved!
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not a problem! i am so glad you understand what we go through.. cause most guys dont... and you actually do!!! i am happy to hear this more than anything right now and it means the world to me!! you are sweet and any woman would be luck to have you :D |
Mwuah there is soo much love here *cuddles in the moment*
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*cuddles Cyan* d'awww!! you are a sweetheart :D
ToS is amazing! |
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In this society of the norm, we need abnormalities, we are human afterall we are all different, and we dont need people telling us how to become the same :D |
awww! I wont, I promise!!!
you are so right!! humans have flaws, and society has to realize we do.. that perfection is impossible... stupid ads for aging creams and acne and crap.. we all get it at some point in our lives.. so why be ridiculed for something we cannot even control! :P its true, people are becoming clones of each other.. and i we need that to stop ! |
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good for you^^ see this is what makes you a good role model.. rather than just a model LOL get it? haha but i am so glad you are different! its what makes you beautiful! never stop believing in yourself!!
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Hehe, ally you are our rolemodel now :D
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Um. I like fashion. *hides*
lol. But I do know what you mean Ally ;) I've never been teased or made fun of really, so I can't say I know how you feel, rapunzel, but my heart goes out to you! That is so awful! I remember when I was in sixth grade I think, and there was this group of guys who were teasing one of my classmates. It made me so mad, I gave them a piece of my mind XD. They didn't bother her anymore. We're actually really good friends now! But bullies need to get a life. Like, do they really have nothing better to do than make other people feel bad about themselves? Honestly. |
thanks Cyan! that is so sweet! not a problem rapunzel! to me you are a role model.. you are what is right with this world! :D
haha thats true Dream, cause you were kind of brought up with it:P you areone of the lucky girls that dont get picked on lol and it was very sweet of you to stand up to for one of your classmates like that.. thats what makes a good person! |
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and yes, I am glad my eyes are opened to the painful terrible truth around us... going to a public trade school you see this world... some guys have girls to be "friends with beinfits" (sex) how good some girls are in bed, things like that, and they're treating women like objects... and there is no way in eternity that I could ever think of a woman as an object, they're just as human as us guys... whats the thinking? Most guys if they think about getting together with a girl nowadays its like "I wonder how quickly i can get her into bed" NO! Wrong! for me its getting to know them, spending time with them, admiring them for who they are, their traits, what they like to do, all that stuff (sorry it's like I'm turning this into my rant). Because they're different than guys, so its interesting to see why... guys obviously are differnet too, but girls are on another level... once again sorry haha |
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no no! dont be sorry! please dont be sorry, your words are truly beautiful and Stanley, seriously you are an amazing person!! you would make the greatest boyfriend cause you care about us as people.. not as objects! you are right in so many levels! guys just only want to screw girls and nothing else.. we are always treated like we are not human beings :( its like we are their sex toys.. its not fair at all.. it angers me.. in shows and stuff... like Two and a Half men, thats all they do is have Charlie objectifying countless clones.. its HORRID! thank you again Stanley.. for everything! |
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This^^ i find this horrible.. even children now.. and you are right.. we are treated worse.. but we can fight against it!! we can do whatever it takes! :D:D
bye everyone! i have to go!have a good day, and never forget who you are! |
Everwhere i look is the sexualisation of women, basically flesh branded on every reachable surface, that's how it feels to me. It hurts inside to see people sell themselves like that, and the corporations making women feel bad, and therefore invest in their products. It makes me soo sad to see such lovely people addicted to such cosmetics, beleiving they need to change but they need to see how beautiful they are. I love you ladies here, every admirable quality in a girl, you are all sacred, beuatiful creatures that deserve to be treat most handsomely and cherished. Women are soo beautiful, and to see them disregarded pains me. Theres nothing better than a womans hug, thats what sells me :D
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And it's the unfortunante truth... just how guys treat women nowadays is making me sick beyond belief... sometimes beyond what I can bear and I cry... I truly feel for you ladies, and like I said I am glad my eyes are opened to this kind of thing, so I can go against the crowd and be different, actually be truth. Because I go to a school thats pretty much all guys (except for the ocassional girl who loves cars [I go to an automotive technician school]) I'm around it all the freakin time. I love school, but sometimes the conversations that go on is sickening. And outside of school as well whenever I see a girl walk by I think, "what seperates me from those guys at school? How does she know that I wouldn't just try to get her to bed but want to develope a relationship? Actually get to know her?" |
Good people will look through the clothes; superficial people would just exclaim how horrible you look. I learned this when I went to a summer camp where most of people were dressed as louts; but when it ended you just didn't care about all the piercings and tattooing or whatever, there were very nice people behind that facade.
Wear whatever you want, the people who really deserve your attention will never judge you by your look. |
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Seriously, though, not many guys think that way. Atleast, they don't act that way. Oh, and girls really aren't that interesting. We're just...confusing. xDD I confuse myself sometimes. |
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I also agree about Stanley. You are a keeper and you will make some lady very happy one day :). |
Awww thanks you girls :) *bug Na'vi hugs* now I just need to find that girl haha
But I (think) I understand what you girls are getting at, but trust me, girls are very interesting... and yes, very confusing as well lol nothing wrong with that though its just how guys and girls are different. I've been told by a few friends that are girls (never had a girlfriend haha) I was confusing and I look at myself and think "how am I confusing?" so I guess its the same way, just vice versa... or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about :D and you girls are truly making me feel awesome with your kind words I cannot thank you enough But I am glad points like this were brought up, gives us a chance to really express how we feel with others who feel the same way |
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Please continue to have a respectful view of women. Its good to know there are still, in the year 2010, chivalrous gentlemen that treat women well. I know there are many women out there that aren't "ladies" but there are some. Its sad to see our society become so coarse. |
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Ally !!!!! I see you :D
i totally agree in what you said :D , i know that you are an awesome person and also somebody that i'd like to meet (as i'd like to meet all ToS people :D) i have to say that all my friends at school think that "how you look is how you are" , but honestly ... i don't care if i look cool or not ... "you women are beautiful and sacred... i cant trash precious jewels " EPIC AGREEMENT :D :D :D |
Damn motherf*cking right on ally!
I'm sick to death of people following blindly every single f*cking word the celebrities, magazines and TV say about this so-called 'fashion', and so many other things in life. Creating identi-fit people with uniforms... it's all such bullsh*t that it makes me want to throw up. People telling you what 'look' is 'in', what to listen to, what to watch, how to act... I'll wear what i damn well want to wear, dance how I want to dance, listen to whatever the f*ck I want to and won't let anyone say otherwise. No, I don't like ke$ha or Akon. I couldn't care less who just split up in Hollywood. Don't like it? Deal with it. It's who I am. If that makes me uncool, sad, clueless, whatever you want to call it... fine. I'm the uncoolest person on the face of this Earth. I don't give a sh*t. I am who I am. Edit: WOW. Looking back there I really exploded. :S |
LOL, that's ok Fkeu'itan. You are right. Who cares what Hollywood or the media says. We are all individuals. We don't have to follow the crowd. Just be yourself :).
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i have never cared what other people thought about me.
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I have to say with casual clothing, I dont care what I wear. However, I have to admit that when it comes to my nicer clothes I am somewhat bad. What I mean is like suits, dress shoes, and the like. I do it more because I want to present myself a certain way and this is what I feel true "fashion" is. Now days it has become everyone should look like Ken and Barbie, and girls must be pencil thin.
This type of thinking bothers me also. Every woman is so different and has a different type of beauty among them there is no way you can narrow it down to a certain look. I never understand the people who go for a certain "look" in a partner, there are way to many different forms of beauty. So yes, I can be materialistic at times but it does pertain on the topic. Also, while I believe with initial meeting looks do play an important role of attraction to the person there is much more than what is on the surface and I love finding what that is. As has been mentioned, girls are mysterious and confusing and I love it :D but damn are girls mean as hell with eachother! LOL I am honestly happy I am a man and do not have to deal with all the crap that is forced at women, my empathy goes out for all of you. |
I see you too !!
awww! and i liked your rant!! it is DAMN GOOD! you shouldnt care what people think and im glad you are doing what u want!! haha and gunny, it is so true what people say about beauty.. its all diffferent! |
I agree with much of what has been said, but I still feel like I have something to add.
It seems like too many people see things in black and white. Specifically (as a guy), either you're "overly sensitive and possibly gay" (for trying to be something other than a testosterone-driven maniac) or you're "a sex-crazed ****-ing machine." It's as if there's no in-between. I guess it boils down to "expected gender roles"--we somehow want to both live them (because they provide cognitive shortcuts to what we "should" or "should not" do) yet we reject them for, among other things, helping lead to the objectification of women and dumbing down of men. I will freely admit to thinking about whether I find someone of the opposite sex "attractive" or not. I don't think there's any harm in that. Where the problem comes in is when one translates thoughts of the person's physical appearance to their value as an individual. Just as perspective, there have been many different definitions of what "looks good" over time: for example in ancient China baby girls' feet were bound and crushed to make them as small as possible. This was considered the mark of highest beauty. During the Victorian (I think) era there was an obsession with corsets and using them to obtain a very specific waist measurement (the number eludes me). It amazes me that these "fashions" are so fleeting in a historical sense, but can do so much damage to peoples' lives while they are in force. To me, there's personal fashion (which is one's self-expression as an individual and barring actual self-harm isn't really something I feel I should judge) and societal fashion (the expectations I was just talking about). The latter category encompasses both "Women should be ___" and "You don't wear jean shorts to a business meeting." Now, while I'm generally supportive of personal "expression" I also don't like people who are purely negative about it, i.e. "I'm not doing X specifically because everyone else is." I see that as an ironic case of someone "rebelling" by allowing what "everyone else" is doing to dictate what they do (if everyone else A, I then not-A). Anyway, my Photoshop install went south and I really should go to bed (and stop typing so much). |
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