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Aketuan 01-01-2011 02:59 AM

I find that the depression comes and goes, but watching the movie and especially for me, meditating in the woods seems to work the best.

SaphirJD 01-01-2011 03:12 AM

Wood is always a good idea, its peaceful and you can clear up your head always, something i want to do again often in summer.

Fosus 01-01-2011 11:20 AM

I agree. Out in the woods, far away from cars and smokestacks.. that's where one can think without distractions. :)

The Man in Black 01-05-2011 06:52 AM

Yeah, I remember the first few days after watching it I had an intense desire to go outside...I had to open my window in my room to get some fresh air in too, so the woods are definitely a great place.

Human No More 03-20-2011 07:25 AM

I really hate being skyperson :(
The futility of everything I do really annoys me, because I know that nothing's going to change in the end.

I still dream of Pandora, of home. There is nothing on Earth for me, and skypeople just make me sad. I'm glad that there are people here who I can talk to, but I don't have anyone AFK, and every time I see Neytiri, I am reminded of that. Yet another thing the Na'vi don't have to worry about like humans :(

I don't care about possibility, but I should be on Pandora, and Earth just isn't home. It IS a dying world, thanks to people who don't care, and everyone just goes chasing stupid things all the time. I hate university, I have no clue about the future, I hate doing the only thing I'm good at, and the only way I feel alive is when I can escape, only for 3 hours at a time :'(

caveman 03-24-2011 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 134804)
I really hate being skyperson :((

Skyperson, as demonstrated by the movie, is an achieved status. So is "Na'vi".

Hunter of the Glade 03-24-2011 11:40 AM

Way to cope with depression: NATURE.
See thread --- http://www.tree-of-souls.com/general...wa_exists.html
;)

Fosus 03-27-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter of the Glade (Post 135644)
Way to cope with depression: NATURE.
See thread --- http://www.tree-of-souls.com/general...wa_exists.html
;)

++++++++++ This :D

The Man in Black 03-27-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter of the Glade (Post 135644)
Way to cope with depression: NATURE.
See thread --- http://www.tree-of-souls.com/general...wa_exists.html
;)

Valid point. Often times we can be externally depressed by our own human creations and surroundings.

auroraglacialis 03-28-2011 09:55 PM

Here at least, spring is coming. Soon, it is time to go outside more often again, experience living beings around us. We will have bees this year - this is going to be interesting. Soon it will be warm enough to go barefoot again and in a few weeks, one can probably even try to go swimming in the lakes again or go hiking in the mountains... :D
Last week we saw beaver marks and trees felled by them and their homes at a river nearby that was renaturated. Today I again saw hares and deer while walking with the dogs (I need to see them before my dogs do so I can keep them from chasing after them). I have found again a beautiful spot in the forest, mythical and beautiful. Maybe I can make a photo one day and post it here :D

The Man in Black 03-28-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by auroraglacialis (Post 136576)
Maybe I can make a photo one day and post it here :D

Sounds awesome, go for it!

caveman 03-29-2011 12:04 AM

Came across this today. So win.

Music & Life

Jhake Sully 07-28-2011 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 2263)
That's nice... I wish there was anything like that around here. Where I live, I can't even see the stars most nights, makes me so depressed if I'm out at night :(

I feel you brother, I'm in England too, we have so much light pollution.

Sempu 08-02-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhake Sully (Post 150672)
I feel you brother, I'm in England too, we have so much light pollution.

You can find good places in England. I was there a few weeks ago and staying in the green areas of Suffolk in this map: ROBIN'S ASTRONOMY PAGE light_pollution_uk1 . Could see rifts in the Milky Way. A quick train trip on NXEA...

apache_blanca 08-02-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by caveman (Post 136619)
Came across this today. So win.

Music & Life

great- so true... :S

Moco Loco 08-02-2011 07:23 PM

I think it's always important to look at the story of Pandora as a version of our own story on Earth. We used to be very much like the na'vi, and though progress has brought us very far away from nature in some cases, I still think we can achieve what they have someday here, or I hope :hmm:

Human No More 08-02-2011 11:21 PM

It's true, but that doesn't do anything about things like how beautiful the Na'vi themselves are, or places on Pandora, or their own capabilities like tsaheylu, and things that exist like ikran... that is what I really want :'(

FoxRunning 01-02-2012 11:25 PM

i have to admit, i am one of those who totally loves the movie, but when it comes to the end, i even leave the credits running, unwilling to let go of the dream. i am disabled, with numerous illnesses and an old injury that is causing more pain the older i get (52 years old this May). i used to be able to use a service dog, but with the pain of the old injury increasing, and doctors cant fix it, and my weakness increasing, i am housebound, needing to lie down often to ease the pain.

i almost envy Jake his strength in human form, to be able to use a wheelchair so easily...im too weak to use one. (but that is one cool chair, and very expensive with those wheels!) so when he wakes in his avatar, i can **so** relate to his joy at regaining his mobility. i wish so much that this were possible...but like his situation, the Medicaid of my state severely limits what kind of medical help i can have.

so,in many ways, its a matter of trying to find ways to distract myself from depression. the movie both is a help and doesnt help. beauty,the elegace of Neytiri, watching a movie where *finally* the Manifest Destiny people get their heads handed to them and the native people win....that helps.

Human No More 01-04-2012 02:39 AM

Good to hear it helps... That's something :)

Sempu 03-11-2012 08:56 PM

Welcome, and I'm sorry that your choices are so restricted... especially by the state, which should know better. It sounds like Avatar has shown you that your imagination can supply you with hope - not for change in your circumstances so much as hope for feeling better.

JohnDOE 05-07-2012 12:07 PM

Sport helps alot trust me.

Niri Te 05-07-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnDOE (Post 173029)
Sport helps alot trust me.

That is true, ma Tsmuk, it is tough to be getting philosophical thoughts about the movie when you are slanting for the sideline, driving past the opposing midfielders, positioning yourself for a pass to your team's Center Forward.
I'm not sure that being on a pair of Langlauf skiis, out in the middle of a snowed over Alpine Meadow would keep you from thinking of the beauty of the forests in the movie. I think that it would have to be an intense competitive winter team sport like hockey to get your mind far from the movie.
Niri Te

weka 06-18-2012 08:17 AM

One of the worst feelings ever is waking up to a dream when you were in Pandora :(

Bewaok 04-06-2013 07:51 PM

What about doing things in our world that simulate things from Pandora? Such as...
-Learning to hang-glide (oh heck yes)
-Appreciating our wildlife
-Riding horses
-Learning of our own natural culture
-Swimming
-Traveling around our world (our just our location, even!)
-Becoming a scientist?
-Go out in nature
- Study nature
-Skiing, any fast sport in nature that gets your blood pumping
-Learn Na'vi language, or any other
-Learn about our own spiritual balances on Earth

And...well...lucid dreaming works too, as long as waking isn't too disappointing...

Also, I like what Moco Loco had to say. Look at Pandora as a version of the story of our earth..it might help find to appreciate this planet a bit more and find what makes us happy -here-.

I apologize if i'm bumping a ...year..old..thread...oh dear...

Moco Loco 04-09-2013 03:23 PM

I'm usually the first to call someone out for necroposting, but nice post https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...3RnZgECvoKHaoJ

Human No More 04-10-2013 08:42 AM

It's a good post, and still relevant. The feeling never really goes away.

allroock123 04-12-2013 03:38 PM

Over the past 3 years there has been a lot of talk on the very deep feelings and emotions people (Including Me) experenced after seeing Avatar.
I beleve the root source of those emotions and feelings at least in some people go much deeper then a lot of the topical reasons I see mentioned here. I am going to refrence an interview by James Cameron on Dreams, Avatar and the creative process.
But first let me say has anyone ever realy questioned the root core source of this deep feeling people speak upon, there a real posability it does not come entirely from the film itself . Avatar points to a part of our very deep primal core human inner understanding that is also tied in with "Dream understanding". James Cameron through Imersive 3D Visuals and Primal music and sound sought a way for the cinema audiece to collectivly share and experence the Waking Dream state tied into A mirror story as well. this is what makes Avatar so unique and diffrent from other films and there is a reason why "It has to do with our unique inner core viewpoint" When in the Waking dream state that jumps down to a level much deeper then one thinks. when one combines a person in the waking dream state with a Mirror story that shows our "reflection" We see Two films in one.
The film itself and what it reflects upon But its how we "See" Avatar that makes the big diffrence from Avatar and other films with a similer themes, When one exprences a waking dream state Cameron Beleaves it opens a door Its a place where the brain free assoates Images and emotions and deep feelings ,With the Brain free assoating creating these strong archetypal images,, I think there may be some real archaic memory there that goes back beyond your own life span and I am not talking about past life stuff I am talking more like realy primitive "atavistic" (Atavistic | Define Atavistic at Dictionary.com)
Stuff thats in the roots of our DNA (Science point of view) or Ancient Ancestral deep core memorys (Spiritual point of view) In this state He Beleaves we are able to "draw on these core memorys" And these powerful images and deep feelings can overtake us and sometimes they are strong enougth to rember.
Instead of trying to explain all he speaks on I will share to radio interview with James Cameron as he speaks on Dreams the creative process and the very strong links To Dreams inside Avatar.

Avatar Director James Cameron talks about Dreams - YouTube

My intrest. What are peoples thoughts and feelings behind this understanding ?
I must also add I beleave quite deeply that Cameron intended people to follow what Avatar reflects on back to its
source if one has the desire to do so and not get seek excapism on Pandora. it can be a very inciteful learning experence. The Na'Vi culture while "unique" also feels very familer they "Mirror" through there heartfelt core examples there roots from our own native peoples.
Camerons deep reseach into native mytholigy reflects these very deep roots. Cameron sees real value in this understanding and what it can teach our people, has said If he had met the Caiapo people of the Amazon he could have made a much better film, He is sending He has been invited by the Caiapo people to do just that and let the cast members get a chance to live and speak with the Caiapo people for severel weeks so they can see first hand what they go through to survive and take part in the village community it will be a learing experence for the cast and a chance for them to sit down and speak face to face with the Caiapo village comunity and see with there own hearts the the feelings they have to share .

Niri Te 05-15-2013 05:17 AM

That would help actors with non Native blood, who have not spent their childhoods, or significant portions of their childhoods on reservations, "keep it real" when they play their roles in the movie. That will help draw many of the people into the movie itself, and help them feel what is supposed to be going on in the movie itself. That would probably be a good thing, IF it spurs people NOT into "Separation Anxiety" over not being on a non existent moon, but MOTIVATES them to get out in the world and do what they can to turn this planet's headlong free fall into destruction at the hands of money hungry maniacs, into a return towards what it WAS a thousand years ago. Shy of a world wide Human Pandemic cutting the human population to about one, one thousandth of it's current numbers, it will be tough to restore to the paradise it once was.

Anti 05-19-2013 05:18 PM

Lucid dreaming is the most cool thing who knows ..... Lucid I dream about six months but not every day ... I really like that in a lucid dream from last night to bind and you can continue the storyline .... learn Lucid not dream in one night is a long time and also you need to have a good method .... in a dream you can do whatever you want and it's my second of world I live .... actually the two worlds is one reality and the other is in my Title ...
It is recommended to learn this kind of dreaming

Fosus 05-25-2013 11:47 PM

I might try Lucid Dreaming again :) too bad it takes soo much practice :(

iron_jones 05-26-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fosus (Post 179372)
I might try Lucid Dreaming again :) too bad it takes soo much practice :(

You and your sleep paralysis can keep away from me, thank you very much.

Tsyal Makto 05-27-2013 07:11 AM

One of the things that's big in the brony community that I learned about in my experiences with them is tulpas.

Has anyone ever considered a Na'vi tulpa, and Pandora as wonderland?

iron_jones 05-27-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto (Post 179397)
One of the things that's big in the brony community that I learned about in my experiences with them is tulpas.

Has anyone ever considered a Na'vi tulpa, and Pandora as wonderland?

Cause adults obsessed with a television show made for female toddlers are really up there on the spiritual meter.

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X.,.Pandora.,.X 05-30-2013 04:09 AM

Tulpa, it sounds so.. different and exciting. But it just seems like 200 hours of essentialy making an intangible (or imaginary for an.. unkind word) friend is a bit of a waste of time, but I still have the sliiiiiiiight urge to try it. Has it worked for anyone?

iron_jones 05-30-2013 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by X.,.Pandora.,.X (Post 179416)
Has it worked for anyone?

Well we all had imaginary friends when we were 5, right?

X.,.Pandora.,.X 05-30-2013 04:44 AM

Yes, but we didn't feel "their" emotions or construct "their" personal beliefs, smell, prejudices, likes, dislikes, ectcetera. It was just a friend you talked to and (for me) played imaginary cops and robbers with.

Moco Loco 05-30-2013 02:20 PM

I think that just depends how involved you were.

iron_jones 05-30-2013 09:57 PM

Why not just write a book and create your own character? But hey, if the Bronies say it's fun, it must be.

Niri Te 05-30-2013 11:36 PM

Just what the HELL is a "Brony"??

iron_jones 05-31-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Niri Te (Post 179439)
Just what the HELL is a "Brony"??

A Brony is an adult male fan of the show "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic", which is a show intended for a female audience around the age of 3-11 years old.

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