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Apollo 05-20-2010 09:03 AM

Consider this:
If we were plugged into machines and were living in the dreams, being it our new reality, we wouldn't complain. The machine is allowing us to live our lives in another world, without the worry of an ultimate death with the AI keeping our bodies intact. However in the matrix, John Travolta said it best: What eyes see, what ears hear, but the mind believes. If you die in the matrix, your done in real life. We wouldn't really be enslaved from AI, instead they would give us a new reality, where things are better, where things are not beyond repair. It's nice to live in this reality, here and now, because we have the ultimate control over it. We dream, ponder, and desire to be in our own dream worlds (our imaginations). AI can do this for us, but its best to keep a dream, a dream. Wonder and mysticism can make something all the more interesting.

Personally, a Real Pandora. Since everything would be just as it were, my mind wouldn't be held hostage by the boundaries of planet Earth when something bad happens. Instead, if I fall on Pandora, I'll feel the effects that Pandora has upon my body (the damage being significantly lower, since the gravity of the planet is much lower than that of Earth). There are just so many things to consider....

Human No More 05-20-2010 05:56 PM

Real Pandora, but only if I was an actual Na'vi (not just me in a Na'vi body), with all the experience and knowledge I would have as a result.

Stanley_9875 05-20-2010 06:00 PM

Hands down real Pandora :)

Dreaming Of Pandora 05-21-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley_9875 (Post 40878)
Hands down real Pandora :)

*thumbs up* :D

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 08:33 PM

As I have said in similar threads, I don't think change of scenery would make that much of a difference, albeit photography might be quite awesome for a while, then after some time it would all be trivial.

What would it take to achieve happiness? I don't think just living in a jungle would do the trick. Or maybe there is no happiness, only illusion of it. Is it only that one must aspire towards this illusion? And if that were the case, then it would it even matter if it would be virtual or real?

Anyways I'm too boring person to vote.

Na'vi_supporter 05-21-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 41679)
As I have said in similar threads, I don't think change of scenery would make that much of a difference, albeit photography might be quite awesome for a while, then after some time it would all be trivial.

What would it take to achieve happiness? I don't think just living in a jungle would do the trick. Or maybe there is no happiness, only illusion of it. Is it only that one must aspire towards this illusion? And if that were the case, then it would it even matter if it would be virtual or real?

Anyways I'm too boring person to vote.

No I don't think you are boring. You are just highlighting some facts without any idealisation. In fact your post dragged me into thinking about this topic more seriously.

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Na'vi_supporter (Post 41682)
No I don't think you are boring. You are just highlighting some facts without any idealisation. In fact your post dragged me into thinking about this topic more seriously.

You'd do yourself a favor not to bother with my insane ramblings, because most of them do not make any sense. They would make more sense, if I were in more stable set of mind.

I don't even quite understand what you meant with any of that?

Na'vi_supporter 05-21-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 41685)
You'd do yourself a favor not to bother with my insane ramblings, because most of them do not make any sense. They would make more sense, if I were in more stable set of mind.

I don't even quite understand what you meant with any of that?

I just think that your "insane rambling" had some sense...

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Na'vi_supporter (Post 41688)
I just think that your "insane rambling" had some sense...

Well most of the time they should, at least when I'm more or less "myself". It's just that I'm not capable of that much rational thinking at the moment, so one might need to keep certain safe perspective.

Woodsprite 05-21-2010 09:20 PM

^Don't get all suicidal on me, now. :P

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 41692)
^Don't get all suicidal on me, now. :P

I think you are replying to the wrong post. That reply would have better suited the other post I made a while back, but then again how would you know that.

josie20 05-21-2010 09:34 PM

I would choose earth if it was in its original state(before humans ruined it).

Woodsprite 05-21-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 41699)
I think you are replying to the wrong post. That reply would have better suited the other post I made a while back, but then again how would you know that.

Lol, no no I was responding to the "...I'm not capable of that much rational thinking at the moment..." part. ;)

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 09:45 PM

Oh never mind, I'm of to sleep before I say something really stupid.


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