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Huurraaa 05-19-2010 08:24 PM

Real Pandora vs. Matrix Pandora
 
Edit: Sorry I screwed up the poll. It's fine now.

Which world would you choose? (One choice per person, and it's irreversible)

Matrix Pandora A: It's just like the movie Matrix. You are wired up in a tube and live in a virtual world of Pandora, which is almost identical to James Cameron's Pandora. You get to choose to be yourself, Jake, Neytiri, or anyone else in Avatar, but you can choose only once. If you die in the jungle, Eywa will revive you. Basically, you can't die in this virtual world until your physical body dies in the tube.

Matrix Pandora B: It's just like Matrix Pandora A, except you do not know you are living in a virtual world. You'll feel just like you went to Pandora for real.

Real Pandora: This is pretty much James Cameron's Pandora, except humans have yet to set foot on the planet. Yes, once you are on Pandora you can choose your Avatar and play with Neytiri.

Na'vi_supporter 05-19-2010 08:34 PM

You should define Matrix Pandora more detailed. Anyway real pandora is my choice :). And I don't want to be enslaved by AI...

Huurraaa 05-19-2010 08:56 PM

I screwed up. I pressed "submit" without posting anything...

I was going to post the details, but while I was testing out the poll options, the post had been submitted already.

Tsyal Makto 05-19-2010 09:00 PM

I think by Matrix Pandora he is refering to a simulated reality of Pandora that is undistinguishable from reality. We have a discussion going about it in the science forum ("Nanobot Technology").

Personally I would always prefer the real Pandora, but I would settle for an SR Pandora if I had to (I prefer to not compare it to the Matrix, for obvious reasons).

Huurraaa 05-19-2010 09:01 PM

Yes, you are right. The post is up. Everyone can vote now.

madman 05-19-2010 09:08 PM

Real Pandora all the way!

Na'vi_supporter 05-19-2010 09:20 PM

Definitly Real Pandora with deep hope that there is chance to move mind to the Avatar :)

rapunzel77 05-19-2010 09:24 PM

definitely real Pandora :).

Txum_kali'weya 05-19-2010 09:50 PM

i will probably be the only person choosing "I wanted to go to Pandora, but now I just want to live on Earth.", but i don't want to go if i am not born there. We ruined Na'vi culture enough already.

Helicoradian 05-19-2010 09:52 PM

Real Pandora for sure:)

Fkeu'itan 05-19-2010 11:14 PM

I'll definitely say real pandora without a shadow of a doubt.

I don't want to live a lie, whether I knew about it or not.

Dreaming Of Pandora 05-19-2010 11:44 PM

Real Pandora, going there for real has got a lot more awesomeness than a virtual Pandora. For the reasons that for one, I'd like to ie there myself and not be a character of the movie in a virtual Pandora and for two, I'd be experiencing Pandora personally for real. In a virtual Pandora you could say it was cool but you would have never actually have been there which wouldn't be enough for me.

Woodsprite 05-19-2010 11:44 PM

"Matrix Pandora A"

When I think deeply about this, I find leaving to go to any semblance of Pandora absolutely terrifying. If I were to choose, however, I'd choose a virtual version while still possessing enough of my wits to understand none of it is real.

Earth is where I belong. Forever. I'll never leave. If I have control then I'm good to go. If I don't have any control, I'm lost, and wouldn't have any idea where to begin. Actually, when I come right down to it, I'm not so sure I care whether or not Pandora is real. I just know I'd like to go there, but... not really go, just visit, preferrably through virtual reality. Lucid dreams are the line I draw.

Grif 05-20-2010 12:43 AM

Believe it or not I really don't want to go anymore.

Fighter-of-Wars 05-20-2010 01:42 AM

Real Pandora for sure. I would rather actually be in the world than "dreaming" it.

Apollo 05-20-2010 09:03 AM

Consider this:
If we were plugged into machines and were living in the dreams, being it our new reality, we wouldn't complain. The machine is allowing us to live our lives in another world, without the worry of an ultimate death with the AI keeping our bodies intact. However in the matrix, John Travolta said it best: What eyes see, what ears hear, but the mind believes. If you die in the matrix, your done in real life. We wouldn't really be enslaved from AI, instead they would give us a new reality, where things are better, where things are not beyond repair. It's nice to live in this reality, here and now, because we have the ultimate control over it. We dream, ponder, and desire to be in our own dream worlds (our imaginations). AI can do this for us, but its best to keep a dream, a dream. Wonder and mysticism can make something all the more interesting.

Personally, a Real Pandora. Since everything would be just as it were, my mind wouldn't be held hostage by the boundaries of planet Earth when something bad happens. Instead, if I fall on Pandora, I'll feel the effects that Pandora has upon my body (the damage being significantly lower, since the gravity of the planet is much lower than that of Earth). There are just so many things to consider....

Human No More 05-20-2010 05:56 PM

Real Pandora, but only if I was an actual Na'vi (not just me in a Na'vi body), with all the experience and knowledge I would have as a result.

Stanley_9875 05-20-2010 06:00 PM

Hands down real Pandora :)

Dreaming Of Pandora 05-21-2010 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley_9875 (Post 40878)
Hands down real Pandora :)

*thumbs up* :D

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 08:33 PM

As I have said in similar threads, I don't think change of scenery would make that much of a difference, albeit photography might be quite awesome for a while, then after some time it would all be trivial.

What would it take to achieve happiness? I don't think just living in a jungle would do the trick. Or maybe there is no happiness, only illusion of it. Is it only that one must aspire towards this illusion? And if that were the case, then it would it even matter if it would be virtual or real?

Anyways I'm too boring person to vote.

Na'vi_supporter 05-21-2010 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 41679)
As I have said in similar threads, I don't think change of scenery would make that much of a difference, albeit photography might be quite awesome for a while, then after some time it would all be trivial.

What would it take to achieve happiness? I don't think just living in a jungle would do the trick. Or maybe there is no happiness, only illusion of it. Is it only that one must aspire towards this illusion? And if that were the case, then it would it even matter if it would be virtual or real?

Anyways I'm too boring person to vote.

No I don't think you are boring. You are just highlighting some facts without any idealisation. In fact your post dragged me into thinking about this topic more seriously.

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Na'vi_supporter (Post 41682)
No I don't think you are boring. You are just highlighting some facts without any idealisation. In fact your post dragged me into thinking about this topic more seriously.

You'd do yourself a favor not to bother with my insane ramblings, because most of them do not make any sense. They would make more sense, if I were in more stable set of mind.

I don't even quite understand what you meant with any of that?

Na'vi_supporter 05-21-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 41685)
You'd do yourself a favor not to bother with my insane ramblings, because most of them do not make any sense. They would make more sense, if I were in more stable set of mind.

I don't even quite understand what you meant with any of that?

I just think that your "insane rambling" had some sense...

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Na'vi_supporter (Post 41688)
I just think that your "insane rambling" had some sense...

Well most of the time they should, at least when I'm more or less "myself". It's just that I'm not capable of that much rational thinking at the moment, so one might need to keep certain safe perspective.

Woodsprite 05-21-2010 09:20 PM

^Don't get all suicidal on me, now. :P

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 41692)
^Don't get all suicidal on me, now. :P

I think you are replying to the wrong post. That reply would have better suited the other post I made a while back, but then again how would you know that.

josie20 05-21-2010 09:34 PM

I would choose earth if it was in its original state(before humans ruined it).

Woodsprite 05-21-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 41699)
I think you are replying to the wrong post. That reply would have better suited the other post I made a while back, but then again how would you know that.

Lol, no no I was responding to the "...I'm not capable of that much rational thinking at the moment..." part. ;)

Aquaplant 05-21-2010 09:45 PM

Oh never mind, I'm of to sleep before I say something really stupid.


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