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TxonTirea 05-23-2010 10:47 AM

Rant Subforum?
 
I've seen some posts where people just needed to vent, and not knowing really where to put them. This could keep all the anger and stuffs in one section. Just for venting, not for flame wars obviously <3

ZenitYerkes 05-23-2010 11:13 AM

Rant Forums sounds quite wrong, to be honest. And I think we're now doing well with the General Forums.

Perhaps a Subforum on the General Section, yeah.

Eltu 05-23-2010 11:47 AM

Yes, we might include such a forum.

Feel free to suggest a name for the sub-forum.

"Rants"?
"Vent"?
"Counseling"?

Something else?

ZenitYerkes 05-23-2010 11:49 AM

"Help and Support Subforum"?

Eltu 05-23-2010 11:50 AM

Sounds great - as long as it's clarified it is PERSONAL help and support, not technical help and support :P

Davy Jones 05-23-2010 12:23 PM

Sounds like a confusing name to me...
I like... Anger Management :D
That was a joke, HAHA; Fat chance!

ZenitYerkes 05-23-2010 12:31 PM

"Views on the/your/our world"?

Choose one of the three, I'm too busy to think right now.

Eltu 05-23-2010 12:40 PM

Well, it could be about other things than the world itself - right?

What about "Community support"?

ZenitYerkes 05-23-2010 12:52 PM

I like "Community Support" :D

Aquaplant 05-23-2010 12:58 PM

What is it with categorizing everything?

I don't think anyone really minds if people just rant on general discussion. Hell, I've turned half the threads on this forums into discussion about how life is meaningless by complaining about my misery, and people don't seem to be too annoyed about that. I feel ashamed though, since all I do is grumble pure negativity like a toxic spill on a flowery meadow.

Sacred Tsahaylu 05-23-2010 01:07 PM

Anger Management is the best name.

Eltu 05-23-2010 01:10 PM

No.

It might be different things than anger.

Sadness, confusion, uncertainty...

I'm still all for "Community Support". ;)

ZenitYerkes 05-23-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 42558)
What is it with categorizing everything?

I don't think anyone really minds if people just rant on general discussion. Hell, I've turned half the threads on this forums into discussion about how life is meaningless by complaining about my misery, and people don't seem to be too annoyed about that. I feel ashamed though, since all I do is grumble pure negativity like a toxic spill on a flowery meadow.

I concur about the categorizing thing.

We should make a poll for this, though.

Human No More 05-23-2010 03:16 PM

I'm fine for Community Support. I can add a poll to the OP in this thread, but need ideas for options for it in that case :)

Eltu 05-23-2010 03:17 PM

I think the problem is not the name - it is whether we should have this section or not.

Therefore, a simply yes/no poll would do...

Woodsprite 05-23-2010 04:23 PM

Well if there's gonna be a poll at all, tell us where it's going to be. ;) And hopefully we'll be able to see who voted what; I want names! :P

Fkeu'itan 05-23-2010 05:11 PM

I too support this and agree with the name being "Community Support."

I realise we don't need to catagorise eveyrthing, but it would make such topics just that little bit more acessable.

Human No More 05-23-2010 07:37 PM

Ok, poll added. It will be open for 3 days (possibly unless we get a clear majority before then)

Woodsprite 05-23-2010 07:42 PM

I wish there was an "I don't know" or "I don't care" option, because I really don't know what to vote, frankly.

rapunzel77 05-23-2010 07:42 PM

Hmm, I don't know if we need a sub forum for that since it seems that the General discussion forum is working but on the other hand, it might help to tidy things up so I would vote yes for a community support forum :).

Human No More 05-23-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 42672)
I wish there was an "I don't know" or "I don't care" option, because I really don't know what to vote, frankly.

Added.

zongtseng 05-23-2010 09:54 PM

It's a nice idea, but it just doesn't seem necessary to me. The General Discussion forum has served fine for this up to now.

Dreaming Of Pandora 05-23-2010 11:03 PM

Why do we need a forum for this? Wasnt General Forums good? If we put these 'rants' into a subforum then it's just making these types of discussions less accessible.

No to Community Forum, there's no need.

Aquaplant 05-24-2010 09:39 AM

On paper the idea seems just fine I guess, but in practice I think it's just creating more little used sub-forums.

On the other hand, if general discussion is active with other kind of discussion, those support threads might not get the attention they deserve.

Then again I think that most people are not going to be that active on the support forum, so a lot of useful or insightful opinions might never get there, considering that general discussion is the most populated sub-forum I think.

There are still too many variables to make a proper decision on the matter. I have to think this more thoroughly before I cast my vote.

Davy Jones 05-24-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreaming Of Pandora (Post 42745)
Why do we need a forum for this? Wasnt General Forums good? If we put these 'rants' into a subforum then it's just making these types of discussions less accessible.

No to Community Forum, there's no need.

This ^
General Forums is fine for this stuff tbh.

Fkeu'itan 05-24-2010 09:09 PM

I believe that problem and support threads can get easily lost in the General Forums... I say yes. (Assuming it's to be called "Community Support" and not "Ranting" or something like that.)

Txantsulsam Fyawintxu 05-25-2010 11:52 PM

Can the Community Support subforum be used for things other than merely ranting and venting?

Sacred Tsahaylu 05-26-2010 03:28 AM

My interpretation of this subforum is that it will be a place where you can just post whatever is in your head, to sort of let out some steam or just to get your thoughts out there and see what others think of them. So yeah, it won't just be for venting and ranting if it comes to fruition.

Txantsulsam Fyawintxu 05-26-2010 05:06 AM

Thought so... I don't feel like it's necessary but you guys can do it if you want. I'm kind of going back and forth on this decision based on how all of it will turn out. I don't think it's an absolute necessity as much as something leaning more towards conveniency if you know what I mean.

The only problem I see with this is boredom and the population declining a bit upon repeated use. When their thoughts are spread out across various subforums, it creates something of a bit of an adventurism. It feels like as if there is some sort of excitement in actually trying to find a good topic in different subforums. Variety makes it exciting and it flows well with the overall main forum.

If everything is clumped together, it creates boredom and unease with seeing the same thing over and over again. Not to mention that specific subforum would probably give off a slightly more negative vibe or be filled with sadness than most of them out there due to the focus of their attention being in one place.

P.S. - Human No More, is it okay if you extend the number of polling days? The reason why I ask is because I notice that some members aren't aware of this and I think they would like to have a voice or an opinion on it too.

That being said, I'm a bit concerned about this happening but if it brings out the best in others then go ahead. :) I won't hold you back. I would just keep this in mind if you're going to create an extra subforum like this.

Not all of it is bad though. The good part about having something like this is more supportive and understanding people. Not to mention it would probably broaden their horizons and their mindsets on life. To summarize, I don't think it's truly necessary to divide and put the people in one place unless it's something people really want.

I'm still kind of going back and forth about it, unless someone can convince me it's something really good. Until then, I'm leaning towards no at this point.

P.S. - Human No More, is it okay if you extend the longevity of this poll? The reason why I ask is because I notice that some members aren't aware of what's going on and I believe they may want to have a voice or an opinion on the matter too. :) Perhaps you could put up a quick announcement on the subject to help raise awareness of what's going on?

Human No More 05-26-2010 11:38 AM

Ok, I'll extend it another 3 days and make a news post.

TxonTirea 05-26-2010 05:40 PM

Wow I can't believe this little idea of mine has shot up. I love what you guys have suggested, a more "Community Support" than a rant. Sounds good to me.

Spock 05-27-2010 06:40 AM

It's a most logical proposal. Let's make this happen. It will redirect more specific posts to this forum and leave the general forums under less pressure. I often miss support posts that are in the general forums, so it will be nice to have a sub-forum where the relevant support posts have somewhere to go.

Community support, sounds good. My support is there.

Spock 05-27-2010 09:18 AM

Aw, I can put up a hell of a lot better argument than that if anyone wants?

Woodsprite 05-27-2010 08:39 PM

I really don't care.

If people feel a need for a new subforum for venting and support, by all means, let it be made. If people are against a subforum that'd lump all the monologue topics together, thus removing the "adventure" (as one put it) from looking in each section, people can vote against it.

I love being involved with forum changes and votes, but with this subject I couldn't care less, and that's saying a lot for myself.

Human No More 05-27-2010 09:10 PM

Well, Anything more general (monologues, etc) doesn't belong there, but one for when people are feeling in need of some support, or just want to complain about things, then they can go in there. Personally, I barely ever browse by subforum, I just use 'new posts' and the search feature, and it's not like it would be any less visible than the other subforums.

Sonoran Na'vi 05-28-2010 06:16 PM

I've seen this idea work well on other forums. My only suggestion (if it hasn't been suggested or thought of already) is to make such a sub forum only visible if you are logged in.

TxonTirea 05-29-2010 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonoran Na'vi (Post 45799)
I've seen this idea work well on other forums. My only suggestion (if it hasn't been suggested or thought of already) is to make such a sub forum only visible if you are logged in.

This guys idea is great too, I don't really want randoms from the Interwebs to see peoples deepest feelings.

tallbluewanderer 05-29-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonoran Na'vi (Post 45799)
I've seen this idea work well on other forums. My only suggestion (if it hasn't been suggested or thought of already) is to make such a sub forum only visible if you are logged in.

Seconded. I'm not sure whether I'm for or against such a subforum -- I know that I'd give such a subforum extra attention, but I have to echo Aquaplant's concerns -- but if we do create such a subforum I think this is a good idea.

Sacred Tsahaylu 05-29-2010 09:54 PM

To have it hidden is a very good idea. It is possible to have this subforum, or whatever it will be, invisible to all except those who are registered.

Woodsprite 05-30-2010 12:44 AM

Well the poll is closed, the majority has spoken, and I could care less. :P

So what now? Obviously the people paying attention have mostly said "Yes", and a vote of "Undecided/don't care" is like a default vote for an opposing candidate to a president who wishes to be reelected.


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