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Jacob 03-16-2010 06:37 AM

Trudy
 
She's probably my favourite character from the entire movie, and one who I wish we had seen a lot more of. Does anyone know if she'll get more attention in the extended version? I was very glad to see a non-Avatar human who was nonetheless able to see the wrong that was going on around her and do something about it.

Plus, she was hotter than Neytiri. :war:

Tudhalyas 03-16-2010 10:01 PM

Jacob, I like Trudy very much but...
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Originally Posted by Jacob (Post 1841)
Plus, she was hotter than Neytiri. :war:

This ^ is blasphemy!!! :war: :war: :war:

Eltu 03-16-2010 10:25 PM

http://i39.tinypic.com/2lcb9fq.jpg

VS

http://i42.tinypic.com/dpzmdd.jpg


Come on.

:D

Sacred Tsahaylu 03-16-2010 10:29 PM

No competition IMO
I will not explain as this is a Trudy thread :P

Eltu 03-16-2010 10:38 PM

Hmm I think I will go ahead and start a Neytiri vs Trudy thread :D

Human No More 03-17-2010 12:33 AM

Heresy...

Trudy is very hot, for a human, but comparing a human to a Na'vi...
Na'vi all the way :D

Gunny 03-17-2010 12:40 AM

Neytiri all the way! Though Trudy isnt bad looking I still gotta stay with Neytiri! :P

Alas, I believe Trudy is dead so I dont know if we will be seeing her in the next movie :(

guyguy 03-19-2010 06:54 AM

To be honest when i first saw the Trailer i was : hell yeah! Michelle Rodriguez, im so going to go see that movie
Zoe and Michelle are both HOT!

Gunny 03-20-2010 05:16 AM

Michelle always playes a bit to much of a tom boy roll for me.

Chris 03-20-2010 06:07 AM

Well i think michelle did her best to portray her character, and she did a good job - however, i wasnt exactly happy with the character created by JC - She has some of the worst oneliners i have seen in quite some time :s

And i doubt that we will see her in any of the following movies. It might be Sci-Fi, but bringing back more than 1-2 characters will have a very negative effect on the average cinema-person.

neytirifanboy 04-19-2010 06:50 PM

I love Trudy too.

Fosus 04-19-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 6087)
however, i wasnt exactly happy with the character created by JC - She has some of the worst oneliners i have seen in quite some time :s

That's true. She was much better in the Script..

xcrunner08 04-20-2010 12:39 AM

I really didn't care that much about Trudy sad to say :( I didn't feel too much at all when she died, only a fear that more main characters would continue to die off, which they did. I am not a huge Michelle Rodriguez fan, saw her first in LOST and hated her role so I think that stereotype carried over.

As several users above mentioned, she was not the best scripted character. She had some flat-out boring and stupid lines. I just didn't find her character a driving force in my enjoyment of the movie at all, much like Norm. Which, btw, thank goodness that romance wasn't in there. Sorry to all the Trudy fanboys out there, but she just isn't my cup of tea ;)

neytirifanboy 04-20-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xcrunner08 (Post 20851)
I really didn't care that much about Trudy sad to say :( I didn't feel too much at all when she died, only a fear that more main characters would continue to die off, which they did. I am not a huge Michelle Rodriguez fan, saw her first in LOST and hated her role so I think that stereotype carried over.

That's fair enough.

I wouldn't say I am a Trudy fanboy, but I did like Trudy.

Actually, I really liked her in Lost and was sorry she was killed off. In fact, I didn't really watch it again after she went come to think about it.

But I do think she was type cast in Avatar playing almost exactly the same role even to the extent that she got killed off. And indeed was similar to the Latin chic in Aliens to some extent.

But in my case I liked the role Michelle played in Lost and Avatar, so I didn't mind at all and would not have minded seeing more of her.

Human No More 04-21-2010 01:18 PM

I didn't really think about her in Lost that much.

I did like Trudy, hey, she's a woman with an interest in aircraft, that's rare and hot :P , but really Neytiri >>>>>>>> Trudy. I didn't get annoyed about how her character was similar to to others she's played, simply because I never think about that, it just doesn't occurr to me.

guyguy 04-24-2010 07:05 AM

well, with the directors cut you'll be able to see her more!

Woodsprite 04-24-2010 09:29 AM

...With Norm.

Woodsprite 04-28-2010 09:37 AM

The expression on Trudy's face right before she dies is heartbreaking:

http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/1547...04282010_1.png

http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/5255...04282010_2.png

X.,.Pandora.,.X 05-04-2010 01:15 AM

Trudy=NOM NOM NOM

Dreaming Of Pandora 05-04-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 26040)
The expression on Trudy's face right before she dies is heartbreaking:

http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/1547...04282010_1.png

http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/5255...04282010_2.png

Yeah it's quite sad. It looks like to me that she doesnt have a clear conscience before she dies, like some regrets or issues in her life that have went unresolved.

Or am I reading too deep into this?

Patrice Maire 06-24-2010 05:12 PM

I think she looks more disappointed that she couldn't help more. Also the realization that she was going to die, she knew she was going down and her survival wasn't good. I'm anxious to see the directors cut and see what was left out of the character development for all of them.

joeylovesgaia 07-21-2010 01:17 AM

Interesting how the character with blue skin, cat features and small breasts gets more love than the fully human one. Bit of furry interest on this forum?

Then again, Neytiri's character gets far more development, giving us more time to fall in love with her.

X.,.Pandora.,.X 07-21-2010 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob (Post 1841)
She's probably my favourite character from the entire movie, and one who I wish we had seen a lot more of. Does anyone know if she'll get more attention in the extended version? I was very glad to see a non-Avatar human who was nonetheless able to see the wrong that was going on around her and do something about it.

Plus, she was hotter than Neytiri. :war:

I AGREE!!!!!! plus Trudy is REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Woodsprite 07-21-2010 04:45 AM

IMO, if Trudy were an avatar, she'd be just as spirited and fiesty as Neytiri if she had the chance to develop and learn the ways of the Na'vi, just like Jake. In fact...

...Trudy's pretty much a mirror of Jake, had he not become an avatar, but still sided with the Na'vi. If Trudy got the exact same chance that Jake had, things would probably turn out the same way, I think.

Eltu 07-21-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by joeylovesgaia (Post 78701)
Interesting how the character with blue skin, cat features and small breasts gets more love than the fully human one. Bit of furry interest on this forum?

Then again, Neytiri's character gets far more development, giving us more time to fall in love with her.

Trudy is a human.

I don't like humans.

Neytiri is not human.

I love Neytiri.

ISV Venture Star 07-21-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 78802)
If Trudy got the exact same chance that Jake had, things would probably turn out the same way, I think.

How about... Trudy controlling Tom Sully's avatar, falling in love with Neytiri... that would be interesting!



Couldn't happen of course as the avatars are grown to match their intended operator.

Woodsprite 07-21-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ISV Venture Star (Post 78917)
How about... Trudy controlling Tom Sully's avatar, falling in love with Neytiri... that would be interesting!

Uhh.... that would incite a life-long debate between every person who has seen Avatar... about Trudy's self-identity crisis of whether she wants to be a woman or a man.

...That'd be disturbing. :S

tm20 07-22-2010 12:24 PM

maybe in the extra 8 minutes we get to see her meet with the na'vi. maybe grace introduced her to them :O

Ashen Key 01-28-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by illuminavi (Post 125662)
Ahem... what about us fanGIRLS! ;) I absolutely LOVE Trudy's character and Michelle Rodriguez even more so. Maybe I am biased for that very reason but her character definitely added a spark to the film.

Yes, THIS. Am an utter, utter Trudy fangirl. And yes, this includes finding her hot as hell. :P

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Originally Posted by illuminavi (Post 125662)
I wasn't too sure what to make of the Trudy and Norm relationship when I saw the deleted scenes. I would never have guessed there was anything going on between them by the film alone, and I'm glad they didn't keep it in. It may have added a little more interest to the film (not to mention more MRod on my screen, ooft!), but it didn't move any of the story along unlike the relationship between Jake and Neytiri. Also it would have meant more scenes would have to be made towards the end that would involve Norm finding out that her ship was blown up, etc. The film was long enough as it is which is why they made the right move to take out this aspect of the story.

But yeah, I ♥ Trudy!

See, I think the Trudy/Norm relationship added so much to their characters and the movie. It was something that had nothing to do with Jake and Neytiri, which broadened the scope of things, and it was so wonderful and non-hetronormative - she's the badass marine who found the geeky scientist attractive and hit on HIM (without any angst on his part about not being good enough/man enough/bs like that). And no, I don't think it would have meant adding more scenes at all - we can use our imagination. And depending on timing (need to double-check) Norm could have heard say 'going down' over the comms.

And I absolutely still saw bits of them in the finish movie. And I ship them so, so, so soooo much.

But. Yes. Trudy? Is awesome.

ScorpionKing 01-29-2011 12:56 AM

Just to answer the original question first, there is alot more Trudy and Norm on the extended version on blu-ray. I just wish we could have got a better look at her when she was foolin` around in the floating mountain lab. Also I would like to remind everyone that her career began long before LOST (the Fast And The Furious was her breakthrough role). I think any girl that can handle a gun, cars, and choppers is too cool. For a tomboy she`s as hot as it gets. If I had to choose between a Na`vi and her I don`t think I could do it, I`m too greedy...lol.

Ashen Key 01-29-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by illuminavi (Post 125763)
True, anything is possible in these kind of movies hey? Trudy definitely added to the movie though, she didn't take anything away from it at all. Apart from herself :( dang!


<.<

this is why we have fix-it fic where she isn't dead!

>.>

X.,.Pandora.,.X 01-29-2011 02:06 AM

Even JC got some things wrong...

Human No More 01-29-2011 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashen Key (Post 125714)
See, I think the Trudy/Norm relationship added so much to their characters and the movie. It was something that had nothing to do with Jake and Neytiri, which broadened the scope of things, and it was so wonderful and non-hetronormative - she's the badass marine who found the geeky scientist attractive and hit on HIM (without any angst on his part about not being good enough/man enough/bs like that). And no, I don't think it would have meant adding more scenes at all - we can use our imagination. And depending on timing (need to double-check) Norm could have heard say 'going down' over the comms.

Well said.
I really like Trudy, and even if I would still choose a Na'vi any day, there is no human on Earth (or off it :P ) who I shouldn't choose one over, and Trudy is still amazing and a great character :) - I was sad when she died :'(

Aaron 01-29-2011 03:02 PM

Trudy is the one dead--or *probably* dead, for you doubters--character I wish hadn't died. Others really needed to get out of the way to keep the story moving in the direction it did, IMO. Not Trudy. It would have been great to see her live to be the last vestige of SecOps at a post-apocalyptic Hell's Gate, helping to redeem the place in some small way. They'll need a character like her there.

Fwel Vitra 01-30-2011 12:40 AM

I agree with the comparison to the marine in Aliens. I see a definite connection there. There's a similarity in their deaths, as well. Both were sort of drawn into their chosen sides of the battle, and both died without a real choice of it.

I'm a definite Trudy fangirl, BTW. There's juat a badass vibe around her that is hard to get over. It would have been nice to see more development of her character, though. The relationship with Norm brought her out, which made her more of a main character in the film. I hated that Michelle got killed off in Lost, as well.

I know I'm going to face a "blue wall" for this, but I really liked her character more than Neytiri. There was just something about her that I found odd. Still trying to figure that out. Sorry, Neytiri fans. :)

Raptor 02-04-2011 08:46 AM

Hmmm, after reading many posts, I have to say...

Can we not have a Neytiri vs. Trudy discussion? Our preferences are subjective, and it would be silly if we get into an argument, although we're not doing that yet. I respect the opinion of those who prefer Trudy over Neytiri, even if I don't agree. One thing is certain though. They are both awesome, badass characters.

Ashen Key 02-04-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AC130StandingBy (Post 127167)
Hmmm, after reading many posts, I have to say...

Can we not have a Neytiri vs. Trudy discussion? Our preferences are subjective, and it would be silly if we get into an argument, although we're not doing that yet. I respect the opinion of those who prefer Trudy over Neytiri, even if I don't agree. One thing is certain though. They are both awesome, badass characters.

Yes, this. They are both wonderful, badass, FIERCE women - and we don't need to get into which one we think is 'better' to celebrate them.

Susano'o 02-21-2011 08:09 PM

Irayo ma Rouge One! :'( Fist bump.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5194/3860m.jpg

Fosus 02-22-2011 04:53 PM

Poor trudy :(


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