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Fkeu 'Awpo 07-20-2010 12:33 AM

I like Opera because it just feels like there's so much more space. The bar at the top with all the tabs and sh*t is only like half an inch wide. Those mouse gestures are pretty handy, too. Also, I've never had Opera crash on me, even with the 15 or 20 tabs I always seem to have open.

As for themes, yeah, I did like that about firefox, but I don't really miss it. I'm usually looking at the webpage more than the browser.

X.,.Pandora.,.X 07-20-2010 02:09 AM

hmmm.... ELTU CAN IT ABOUT OPERA!!!!!!!!!!! and windows vista/chrome

Eltu 07-20-2010 02:12 AM

Why can it? Opera's great.

X.,.Pandora.,.X 07-20-2010 02:19 AM

Because its tiresome to read your defense of Opera, its peoples opinions of their favorite browser thread, not, Eltu try to convince eveyone Opera is the best browser thread. Let people post theif fav. browser and leave it be!

Isard 07-20-2010 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X.,.Pandora.,.X (Post 78414)
Because its tiresome to read your defense of Opera, its peoples opinions of their favorite browser thread, not, Eltu try to convince eveyone Opera is the best browser thread. Let people post theif fav. browser and leave it be!


Its a debate thread.


Its for debating.


If your not debating.


Ur doin it wrong.



FF is best.

Eltu 07-20-2010 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X.,.Pandora.,.X (Post 78414)
Because its tiresome to read your defense of Opera, its peoples opinions of their favorite browser thread, not, Eltu try to convince eveyone Opera is the best browser thread. Let people post theif fav. browser and leave it be!



Um, no.

This is a DEBATE thread. The whole POINT of the thread, is to convince others that their favorite browser is the best. It's not just a "name your favorite browser" thread. It's browser WAR.

;)

X.,.Pandora.,.X 07-20-2010 02:28 AM

oh, but still lol

Isard 07-20-2010 02:31 AM

Not "but still".



Firefox can be whatever you want it to be. Opera is nice, but FF is capable of perfection.

Txum_kali'weya 07-20-2010 07:22 AM

i shall download this 'opera' and see which is better.

Advent 07-20-2010 11:50 AM

Firefox is perfect. Why?

Cos foxes are awesome. :D

Eltu 07-20-2010 12:00 PM

Interesting...argument.

Tymian 07-20-2010 12:06 PM

To be honest all mentioned above web browsers are good each one in different way, even IE.

From security wise perspective every one have some weakness ;p Yet i think that web browser who working in sandbox totally isolated from system is something better like chrome :D

Fkeu'itan 07-20-2010 12:16 PM

Here comes the ultimate fence sitter...

As far as i'm concerned, I really don't care. If it offers me access to the internet, it's done. That'll do me just fine.

I personally don't see all the fuss about Firefox this or Opera that... They all do the same basic function don't they? (And from what i've seen, all at roughly the same speed. (This is going to come back and bite me in the ass isn't it?))

Mune 07-20-2010 12:19 PM

I don't know, I sort of have the same viewpoints as you, Fkeu'itan. I just use Chrome because it was set as my default, I just really use the first one I can click on, I've got all of them. The only reason I use Chrome is because... Well, I don't know. The bookmarking system is good? Pff. I don't really care about which one I use...

Truth be told, I fell in love with Firefox when Adblocker was released. I don't know why I don't use it.

Advent 07-20-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan (Post 78534)
(This is going to come back and bite me in the ass isn't it?))

You're stating the obvious. :P

Eltu 07-20-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan (Post 78534)
Here comes the ultimate fence sitter...

As far as i'm concerned, I really don't care. If it offers me access to the internet, it's done. That'll do me just fine.

I personally don't see all the fuss about Firefox this or Opera that... They all do the same basic function don't they? (And from what i've seen, all at roughly the same speed. (This is going to come back and bite me in the ass isn't it?))



And cars all do the same basic function too, right? Taking you from one place to another? :P

Imagine browsing the Internet without tabs. That's significantly reducing your ability to do things. It's the same with different browsers. It can make all the difference.

For me, Opera gives me an ability to browse the web in a much more efficient way. It provides functions that makes things so much easier, it's really fast, and... well, for a complete list of reasons see my first post. ;)

Fkeu 'Awpo 07-20-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mune (Post 78537)

Truth be told, I fell in love with Firefox when Adblocker was released. I don't know why I don't use it.

Opera has a content blocker by default.:cool:

Eltu 07-20-2010 12:29 PM

Indeed. :D

Fkeu'itan 07-20-2010 12:36 PM

Hmm...

Well, seeing as every browser now has tabs, I don't see why it's better myself. Maybe speed-wise? But even then, another 2 seconds of waiting isn't going to kill me... It just seems that whatever one browser gets that's all new and wonderful, all the others get in a couple of days, so why even bother to switch? Like mune, I just use the default of whatever computer i'm using.

And yeah, it's the same with cars, and phones, and well vitually anything. I'm just content to get by with something that servers the purpose personally.

Eltu 07-20-2010 12:39 PM

The tabs were a metaphor - some NEW functions, equally important for me as tabs, I have found in Opera.

Fkeu'itan 07-20-2010 12:43 PM

Ahh I see.

Functions such as...?

Eltu 07-20-2010 12:47 PM

Primarily, the enhanced search function, and mouse gestures.

See my first post in the thread for details. ;)

Fkeu'itan 07-20-2010 12:51 PM

Right, ok then... :)

Hmm... well, they're things that don't really matter to me personally, but if you feel you need them, that's cool. I don't mind taking the scenic route. :)

Eltu 07-20-2010 01:01 PM

Each to their own. ;)

Na'vi_supporter 07-20-2010 01:13 PM

I'm using Firefox. Why? I am used to it, I don't miss any features and Ilike the interface and plugin system. That's it :D

Fosus 07-20-2010 03:29 PM

I'm a Chromium user. (Chrome without integrated h.264) for a few reasons:

- It is a natural part of the operating system I use; Kubuntu.
- It is automatically being updated to the latest version.
- It is open-source.
- All my bookmarks and also the browser theme are synced between computers via my Google account.
- It has a very good functionality, while still being the easiest to use browser I have ever used.
- It is fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aihwa (Post 78314)
Anything firefox lacks, it is somewhere out there as an addon. That, is a fact.

This applies to Chrome as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eltu (Post 78315)
Why bother downloading addons, when everything I want already is in Opera from the beginning? :P

Even though it has quite a big bunch of features this statement is obviously wrong. Everything you want, is not what everyone else wants too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eltu (Post 78289)
However, Opera is simpler (more minimalistic and show-only-what-you-need UI), lighter (more quick in responding to UI commands), and faster (as have been shown in tests).

I have used Opera for years, and have nothing negative to say about it. But you saying Opera is more lightweight than Chrome conflicts a bit with the statement of having everything built in. Also, speed is not overall better when comparing to Chrome. Different tests give different results, and as every browser is constantly updated the trophy owner keeps changing. To be honest I don't even care about a few milliseconds, as long as I know the browser I use is one of the leading browsers in both speed and features. :)

Dreaming Of Pandora 07-20-2010 06:30 PM

IE 8 for laptop (because I couldn't be arsed getting a new one)

Opera for mobile (because speed and compression make a difference when you're being charged for data usage)

Anima 07-20-2010 09:32 PM

Ok, I downloaded Opera now, all this talk about it got me curious :)

I have the problem that I can't make up my mind wich one I like the most... I usually use Chrome (cause of the lightweight thing and also firefox crashes more) but when I work (making webpages) I usually use Firefox beacause it have some plugins I need (I was positivly surprised that opera had the "inspect element" built in by default :P), and also I like "open recently closed tab" and som other stuff.

I only use IE to check my webpages...

Soooo, let's se if Opera can win my heart ;)


Oh, and by the way, can someone tell me more about theses "mouse gestures"?

Advent 07-20-2010 10:13 PM

I use Firefox for a simple reason. It's reliable.
In the end, that's all that matters.

Human No More 07-20-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eltu (Post 78558)
Primarily, the enhanced search function, and mouse gestures.

See my first post in the thread for details. ;)

I find both of those useless (and in the case of mouse gestures, worse than useless. Oh, I moved my mouse and closed a tab lol.)

But the good thing about firefox is if you WANT those, you can add them.

Txum_kali'weya 07-21-2010 12:23 AM

downloaded opera...
didn't like it before it was running...

the installer allows no customization(shortcuts,location,import...)
running it now...

how do i block ads?

i'll be back with more questions and such.

my current favorite thing: accel and decel on the scroll wheel.

stdout 07-21-2010 12:30 AM

I downloaded Opera, too, and I think I'll be using it until Firefox 4 comes out (I like new stuff :)).

Fkeu 'Awpo 07-21-2010 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txum_kali'weya (Post 78687)
how do i block ads?

Right click, "Block Content", click on the things that you want blocked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anima (Post 78616)
can someone tell me more about theses "mouse gestures"?

If you don't have a mouse with lots of additional buttons, they're pretty handy.
See here for info. → Opera Gestures

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdout (Post 78689)
I downloaded Opera, too, and I think I'll be using it until Firefox 4 comes out (I like new stuff :)).

The beta's out, haven't really tried it out yet; but I'm looking forward to the full release. :)

Eltu 07-21-2010 10:23 AM

I really don't understand why people want to block ads.

Ads are there for a reason - they provide money for the people who run the site, and by doing so, makes the site (hopefully) last longer.

When I visit a site that I like, I even click the ads there now and then, to show my support for the site. I mean, it's not that hard - and as a web developer I know how much ads can mean for a website.

If I visit a site I don't like - well, then I don't visit the site, of course. No need to block ads on a site I don't like.

So... out of curiosity - why do you want to block ads?

Dreaming Of Pandora 07-21-2010 11:25 AM

Why do we want to block ads?! Is that a question? I know why I would block out ads.

Eltu 07-21-2010 11:26 AM

Yes, it's a question. I'm curious. Why? ;)

Dreaming Of Pandora 07-21-2010 11:32 AM

Well I have no idea how important ads are for a website but all I know is that they're everywhere and sometimes they can freakin get on my nerves, especially those "partypoker.com". Even with pop-up blockers on they still get through. >.<

Eltu 07-21-2010 11:33 AM

Well, pop-ups are one thing, and ALL web browsers have automatic pop-up blockers. And yes, they seriously interrupt workflow so I understand if people want to block these (I do it myself)

But banners, ads on the webpages, etc - there is no reason to block those...

Dreaming Of Pandora 07-21-2010 11:53 AM

Well I can tolerate them to a degree but they are some websites now that are putting sound into their ads which is annoying.

Eltu 07-21-2010 11:55 AM

Well, then you simply have to block websites from making sounds.

Opera has a feature for that. ;)

No need to block out all ads altogether.


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