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Human No More 09-10-2010 04:19 PM

Perhaps... I know that in the past, he originally promised MORE in the sequel... if that means that now it's similar to Avatar, I guess that's not that bad :)
But on the other hand, I could just be saying that to make myself feel better, not sure :(

Sight Unseen 09-13-2010 02:41 AM

I seriously hope Cameron lurks these forums...

Elyannia 09-13-2010 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aihwa (Post 93693)
Tbh, I found the ending fight forced, and, not very, good... I sometimes just skip over it. Seen one fight, seen em all.


You dont need two sides slaughtering each other to achieve epic.

Couldn't agree more. I have to say that I also skip over the fighting scenes because it gets boring after awhile. We've seen tons of fight scenes before. I'd like something different for a change =/. It seems like now a days a lot of people think a movie can only be good if someone is getting the crap beat out of them...

caveman 09-13-2010 04:34 AM

Respectfully, I disagree (with most of you). One of the reasons I thought the Avatar storyline was so good was because it is a reoccurring story in real life. I think Avatar is a mirror of real life. It's fantasy, but it heavily relates to real life. I didn't like the fight scenes much. I just liked being around hometree and such. Climbing the floating rocks was my favorite part. Or maybe the first night under bioluminescence. Very powerful, but without weapons.

Another couple things. First, don't worry about Avatar 2 taking place in a room, and just dialog. This is Cameron.

Secondly, the reason I suspect so many of you loved Avatar was because of the emotions, Pandora, Neytiri, Jake, the nights, the animals. Less fighting means more of those. We're not losing anything here. Plus, I recon there will be another massive battle. The second might lead to the third, like in Lord of the Rings. Overall, I wouldn't worry about it. If the sequel is simply dialog, then the dialog is taking place on Pandora. Even the most boring possible thing is going to be awesome.

Human No More 09-13-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Elyannia (Post 94348)
Couldn't agree more. I have to say that I also skip over the fighting scenes because it gets boring after awhile. We've seen tons of fight scenes before. I'd like something different for a change =/. It seems like now a days a lot of people think a movie can only be good if someone is getting the crap beat out of them...

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Originally Posted by caveman (Post 94358)
Respectfully, I disagree (with most of you). One of the reasons I thought the Avatar storyline was so good was because it is a reoccurring story in real life. I think Avatar is a mirror of real life. It's fantasy, but it heavily relates to real life. I didn't like the fight scenes much. I just liked being around hometree and such. Climbing the floating rocks was my favorite part. Or maybe the first night under bioluminescence. Very powerful, but without weapons.

Perhaps... but if the entire film was that, I think not only would it not have been anywhere near as successful as a mainstream audience will get bored, but there would be no conflict, no message... It wouldn't have affected many of us anywhere near as much as it did.

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Another couple things. First, don't worry about Avatar 2 taking place in a room, and just dialog. This is Cameron.
That is a British institution called sarcasm :P
I know it won't be THAT bad, but I'm still worried... :(

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Secondly, the reason I suspect so many of you loved Avatar was because of the emotions, Pandora, Neytiri, Jake, the nights, the animals. Less fighting means more of those. We're not losing anything here. Plus, I recon there will be another massive battle. The second might lead to the third, like in Lord of the Rings. Overall, I wouldn't worry about it. If the sequel is simply dialog, then the dialog is taking place on Pandora. Even the most boring possible thing is going to be awesome.
So you didn't think that some of the strongest emotion came from there?
It did for me...

Just the pure epicness of Jake as Toruk Makto and then gathering the Na'vi clans for battle...
Seze :'(
Trudy and Tsu'tey dying...
Neytiri...

"EYWA HAS HEARD YOU!!!!"

Then, of course... "I See you"... :'(

Sure, the rest of the film is beautiful, and it's still the only film I've ever even FELT LIKE crying about, let alone actually doing so... But without that, I wouldn't have anywhere near as much :(

Fosus 09-13-2010 01:35 PM

I am sure the sequel will be epic and even better than Avatar.

caveman 09-14-2010 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 94409)
Perhaps... but if the entire film was that, I think not only would it not have been anywhere near as successful as a mainstream audience will get bored, but there would be no conflict, no message... It wouldn't have affected many of us anywhere near as much as it did.


That is a British institution called sarcasm :P
I know it won't be THAT bad, but I'm still worried... :(


So you didn't think that some of the strongest emotion came from there?
It did for me...

Just the pure epicness of Jake as Toruk Makto and then gathering the Na'vi clans for battle...
Seze :'(
Trudy and Tsu'tey dying...
Neytiri...

"EYWA HAS HEARD YOU!!!!"

Then, of course... "I See you"... :'(

Sure, the rest of the film is beautiful, and it's still the only film I've ever even FELT LIKE crying about, let alone actually doing so... But without that, I wouldn't have anywhere near as much :(

I think its more than safe to say, there will be another massive battle.

I did get some powerful emotions from things like Toruk and the war. It's just that, for me, the things that stuck with me the most were the peaceful times.

Remember that expectations for this movie are going to be huge. Cameron will need to step up to that challenge, and that will have to include battles, or at least, a preview to the third movie - where another epic battle will take place.

Don't worry. Avatar 2 is going to be awesome. Hands down.

ISV Venture Star 09-14-2010 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by caveman (Post 94509)

I did get some powerful emotions from things like Toruk and the war. It's just that, for me, the things that stuck with me the most were the peaceful times.

Me too. I would happily watch a 6 hour+ film that was just the 3 months that Jake spent learning the ways of the Omaticaya from Neytiri and recording observations in the shack with Grace and Norm, all culminating in the night at the Tree of Voices.

Elyannia 09-14-2010 03:27 AM

For me it seemed like the reasons the war and battles went on were powerful, but the actual battle scenes themselves weren't that powerful. The only battle scene that really touched me was the "eywa has heard you" and the Jake and Quaritch fight. The rest of the fight scenes didn't make have that amazing feeling like the rest of the movie.

Human No More 09-14-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ISV Venture Star (Post 94515)
Me too. I would happily watch a 6 hour+ film that was just the 3 months that Jake spent learning the ways of the Omaticaya from Neytiri and recording observations in the shack with Grace and Norm, all culminating in the night at the Tree of Voices.

I would definitely watch that too... But really, it would only show one side of the Na'vi.
Need to get those ayskxawng off Pandora anyway :war:


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