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iron_jones 01-29-2011 05:23 AM
WOW!!! Selfridge does not deserve to die. he regrets what he did and was uneasy with it the whole time. BE NICE TO HIM. Giovanni Ribisi will live forever

Aaron 01-29-2011 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by iron_jones (Post 125916)
WOW!!! Selfridge does not deserve to die. he regrets what he did and was uneasy with it the whole time. BE NICE TO HIM. Giovanni Ribisi will live forever
I too have a hard time being really mad at Selfridge. He comes off mostly as a corporate pawn. Of course, he's the proxy for most of the RDA badness in the first movie, but I hope JC doesn't get too preoccupied with him. Let's go up the food chain a little if we're going to kill more RDA people!

iron_jones 01-29-2011 05:44 AM
I just love Selfridge :) Siiiiigh

Human No More 01-29-2011 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Eywa's Pet (Post 125898)
Let's hope they're just crediting Sigourney because Grace's driverless avatar has some trivial role in Avatar 2 (e.g., like being an organ donor for some Na'vi warriors wounded by SecOps or something). Really, I'd love it if Quaritch, Grace, Trudy, and everybody else presumed dead/gone at the end of Avatar [1] really was dead/gone. I can see Avatar 2 starting off with some cut scenes in which we see Selfridge stepping out of cryo and immediately being handed a pink slip, but other than that, I'd love not to see him again either. Fresh blood!!! :D

EDIT: Revising that: Except perhaps for Norm's avatar. Let's see that come back somehow. The script makes that seem hard, but the movie leaves the door open. A little.
Well said :D

As for Norm, it depends on whether or not the extra things from the script that were not made are canon or not.

BotanicalMedley 02-25-2011 11:18 PM
I don't think James Cameron will make Avatar 2 a repeat of Avatar. Everyone would expect Quaritch to return as evil, or just return at all. If Quaritch DOES return, I think he'll be truly GOOD.

BotanicalMedley 02-25-2011 11:27 PM
Do you think he'll return as good or still evil?

tm20 02-26-2011 01:01 AM
he'll return..... in an urn http://my.ilstu.edu/~cemushr/persona...es/rimshot.gif

Fwel Vitra 02-26-2011 01:11 AM
:) That works for me.

Human No More 02-26-2011 01:19 AM
He's dead.

Hunter of the Glade 02-26-2011 03:50 AM
In the CE opening scene, Jake was watching a documentary about extinct tigers being cloned back into existence. If that is possible in 2154, then there is a possibility of Quaritch returning as a clone maybe?

Ashen Key 02-26-2011 03:56 AM
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In the CE opening scene, Jake was watching a documentary about extinct tigers being cloned back into existence. If that is possible in 2154, then there is a possibility of Quaritch returning as a clone maybe?
Except that cloning doesn't work like that - all it does is create a genetic double. Which, if they DID clone Quaritch, would mean in a few years they'd just have a little boy on their hands, which defeats the purpose.

Woodsprite 02-26-2011 04:47 AM
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Except that cloning doesn't work like that - all it does is create a genetic double. Which, if they DID clone Quaritch, would mean in a few years they'd just have a little boy on their hands, which defeats the purpose.
Glad you mentioned that to clarify. There's a common misuse of the words/misunderstanding of "clone" and "duplicate".

A clone possesses an exact physical likeness of the original source, and is birthed and grown the same as any other human.

A duplicate is one who possesses the exact mental qualities of another, and is never birthed and/or grown, but rather animated in another physical form that resembles the exact likeness of the original. However, there's no such thing as a "genetic" duplicate, in that it's impossible for the mental properties of one person to be passed to another by inheritance.

Ashen Key 02-26-2011 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 130669)
Glad you mentioned that to clarify. There's a common misuse of the words/misunderstanding of "clone" and "duplicate".

A clone possesses an exact physical likeness of the original source, and is birthed and grown the same as any other human.

A duplicate is one who possesses the exact mental qualities of another, and is never birthed and/or grown, but rather animated in another physical form that resembles the exact likeness of the original. However, there's no such thing as a "genetic" duplicate, in that it's impossible for the mental properties of one person to be passed to another by inheritance.
I blame Hollywood! And sci-fi.

Although it would be cool if there was something where you could copy and transfer consciousness, but I don't really see that in Avatar!verse with the humans.

txen 02-26-2011 06:31 AM
Hey Jake and Tom were identical twins. so how about an identical twin of Quaritch inbound on the next ISV?

Woodsprite 02-26-2011 06:36 AM
That'd be pretty comic-book-like.


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