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The issue of How Futuristic to Make It is one that all SF writers have to deal with (I'm an SF writer myself). The problem is that if you try to get too clever and imaginative then you spend way too much time explaining all your clever little ideas instead of telling the story. Cameron (wisely, I think) stayed away from too much clever, futuristic stuff. Still, this forces him to use some anachronistic dialogue from time to time:
Jake describes Mo'at as "Dragon Lady" How many know this is a reference to a 1940s-50s cartoon strip titled "Terry and the Pirates"? The remote bulldozer operator says that Jake is "Doing the Funky Chicken". That was a short-lived dance craze from the 1980s. After finishing the destruction of Hometree, Quaritch says to his pilot: "Let's Boogie." Another 1980s reference. And yet if Cameron had had Jake say: "Velociraptor Woman" about Mo'at (a character form a 2140s cartoon series Jake watched as a child), it would have meant nothing to audiences in 2010. It's always a challenge. Still, he could have added some non-American accents to the mix of RDA personnel. The only noticeable accent in the whole movie is Quaritch's southern drawl. |
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I always thought "dragon lady" was more of a generic epithet and not necessarily a reference to any particular cultural staple. It's a personality trope, sort of like "angry midget." Even now, when people use it, they aren't making a reference to some 40s cartoon strip, so why is it a problem if Jake uses it? It didn't trip me up at all to hear him use the phrase, I just thought "why yes, Mo'at IS a scary, middle-aged matriarch."
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*Response to the OP, haven't read all responses yet.*
In a way, I think Cameron has failed as well. But not necessarily in the way you're talking about. I am with Banefull on the matter of the story's delivery. I commend him for making the decision to add these kinds of scenes. For me, as Banefull also said, it made things more realistic. Things in life are rarely blatantly 2-sided, and these added scenes really added a 3rd dimension to the Na'vi for me, he showed that they're not only a loving, kind race, but they're willing to make a stand to save what they have if they're pushed enough. It gave them a whole new level of more depth and strength for me, personally. No, I believe where Cameron really failed was in the deliverance of the message. A lot of people - in fact, most of the people here - have claimed that at one point, they really felt a passion not just for the Na'vi and the amazingly beautiful place that is Pandora, but also for this planet. People who said they wanted to change both their own world and the wider one, people who said they wanted to do something about the dark path we're all heading down and start caring more not just for our world, just as the Na'vi do so well for theirs. People who were strong, resiliant and who felt practically invincible. Now I can see few people who really wish for this any more... Who feel these things any more. For those who do still feel something, they don't actually want to ACT on it. Or feel powerless to do so. All the while, our world keeps on dying and humanity keeps on going into a vertical nose-dive. THAT is where Cameron failed. The story remains the same, but the message was lost. (I guess this is really a message from the blind, to the blind, as everything I said was hugely hypocritical - but dammit, i'm trying.) |
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At the same time, what colonizers have done and still do is horrifying beyond anything Avatar showed. Humans can be very evil indeed. |
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Also, I heard that apparently 'Ranger Rick; is a reference too, I didn't know that one until someone mentioned that it was. Quote:
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Quaritch was the first villian that I actually didn't want to win :3 I usually always root for the villian.
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Although Mr Smith was a complete ass throughout the whole trilogy... he was still SO awesome :) |
Slavery and rape !? Man, what !?
The only ones who fail are people who think that AVATAR is inspired from war movies or Pocahontas or other stuff like that... It's like putting me in the scene saying : "No, AVATAR isn't about thinkin' on how we should NOT do some things, AVATAR is about how we do and did things..." Who cares ?! AVATAR is not about Irak or rape or slavery... We are here to learn. |
This thread is still going? Christ... It was answered long ago. :facepalm:
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