Avatar - Most pirated film of 2010
 

That's too bad. I can't stand when people do this kinda stuff.

The Most Pirated Film of 2010 Is... - MOVIE TALK on Yahoo! Movies


It also shows the other most pirated films of the year, but I only posted the part about Avatar.

Very interesting, although I can't say it came as much of a surprise. I know quite a few people who pirated it themselves, only to actually go and watch it in the cinema at a later date. (Which is always a good thing. :P)

Not going to get much of an outraged reaction on here. Self righteous pirates abound.

Well, of course it's the most pirated movie of the year, since it's the most known movie of the year. People hear of a movie, people pirate it - nothing strange. :P

Yet I didn't pirate it! :P

I actually did 'acquire' it...

But then again, I did see it 7 times in the cinemas, and bought the collector's AND limited editions, so it's justified. :D

Highest-grossing

Highest attendance rate (worldwide)

Highest DVD/Blu-Ray sales

Highest-pirated


Seems like nothing can stop Avatar.

I downloaded it in February. I needed it at home and the first DVD release wasn't coming quick enough. :P

I wonder how many of those downloads are of the "Avatar haters"...

Sorry for posting twice but I was reading this article about piracy and there are picture references to Avatar so...

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/index....ugh-qvideo-dna

Does not wonder me much too, and even if Avatar was pirated much... Its success was amazing :D

The other point is how lots of people lost it from cinemas earlier than they should... withdrawal is not a nice thing.

So what? People like it. They might not have the money to see it. I have no problem with that.

Torrents are for suckers, though. They take too long, and you can't check 'em out before starting the download. Plus, they go right to your shared file, where all the agencies can find you.

^ Better than trying to navigate the porn-speckled (and now defunct) Limewire...

I downloaded the leaked screener's copy back when that came out, but I also have two editions on DVD and 10 ticket stubs. The official DVD hadn't come out yet, and it was out of the theaters by my house, I think I earned it given the circumstances. :P

Be careful what you admit openly here... I'm keeping quiet, even though practically anyone here who knows me knows what I've done. But I do agree you've sort of paid the price (so to speak) on Avatar in your own way, with all those ticket stubs and DVDs. ;) I personally have 13 ticket stubs, 9 from Imax. No DVDs or Blu-ray, though. Still waiting it out to get my copy for Christmas.


...But LimeWire still works fine. The lawsuit rid them of their most updated version. If you download an old version of LimeWire (which my sister still has), you can still torrent using their program.

Pffft! Torrents? Limewire? The cognoscenti are on usenet...

Indeed - I'm sure that a lot of people getting a pirated copy of Avatar were doing so to lessen withdrawal symptoms. And, as someone else wrote, as long as those people purchased the original DVD and later the CE, it's alright, IMO (which fans and lovers of Pandora will have done, anyway).

Wiggling bare toes,

~*Txim Asawl*~

Ah, I beg to differ. True pros use tehparadox. They have everything.

Yea one of my friends from school showed me his pirated copy and I'm like

:|

*shakes head*

lol

but it wasnt much of a suprise to me either... and the Hurt Locker thing? kind of funny :D

You know everyone only wanted to copy "The Hurt Locker" just to see what the hell beat out Avatar for "Best Picture".

I, like alot of other people aquired a screener copy just soo I could make it through the week til I could go the the cinema again... and then I couldn't bring myself to watch it, in it's terrible picture quality and sound etc, because thats definitely not the way pandora was meant to be experienced.

seriously though, If fox wanna try sueing fans who have admit to having a digital copy of avatar even though they went to the cinemas (numerous times for pretty much everyone on here) and have supported it ever since, but just couldnt wait for the dvd to be released, then I think they should really have another think about going down that path.

anyways, regardless, I don't think people pirating the movie would have hurt cinema attendance or dvd/blu-ray sales, I think if anything, people would watch a pirated copy, go wow, that looks like it'd be amazing if I saw it properly, and then they'd go to the cinema or imax, or go buy the dvd/blu-ray. I myself upgraded my computer with a blu-ray drive for the sole purpose of avatar's first barebones release, because I wanted to watch it in all its fantastic glory... literally, thats the only reason I bothered upgrading to blu-ray.

The Hurt Locker was a waste of bandwidth, at least for those of us who have to deal with usage caps. It winning best picture was nothing but a snub to James Cameron.

But Fox would probably go easy on those who download it. Suing somebody after the amount of money it's made would make them look greedy, which is bad press. Which would be the opposite strategy of THL, which made very little money.

Too bad? The more people watch the movie, the better. Everyone should see Avatar in one or another, and this is only showing that more people have done so. It's a wonderful thing. Avatar is number one everywhere, that's all that matters. :D

You do realise limewire still seeds as well? 99% of clients will refuse to upload to leechers.

As for Avatar itself... I have seen it close to 30 times in the cinema, plus I own 3 bluray copies... :P

As for the hurt locker, it's a waste of disk, people wanted to see WTF it was and didn't want to waste their money (or actually make it do anything further than break even on its cost :P )

There's another side to the coin. Piracy was probably a key factor in Avatar's surge to infamy. Let's say someone downloads it, finds it spectacular and then takes his/her friends out to see it in the cinema. Fox wouldn't chase people over pirating the film either, they made so much profit.

I confess that I downloaded it before the DVD was out.. I couldn't resist :(

A trip to the nearest city with a movie theater cost nearly 200€ so I couldn't afford it more than twice. I also bought the DVD when it came out.

i did as well it help me when i had the avatar blues, but i also went to see it in imax like 27 times and got both dvds so i still put my money in :)

If you purchase a DVD, you have a license and can own digital copies. If you did not, then you do not.

Legally, digital copies are backups (in case of loss of or damage to the disk, or to watch content you own on your own devices by having it in the correct format for them). Of course, copies made before owning the bluray aren't exactly the same but I'm sure everyone ended up buying AT LEAST one copy :P

That's why I still feel a teeny bit guilty, since I still don't own any copies.

People on here seen Avatar multipule times while it was playing in theatres. It's one thing for them to pirate the movie because they have actually showed their support. But for the people who "don't have the money" or just don't want to pay... it just kinda makes me mad. Not just with Avatar, but all illegal music and movie downloads. It just shows people's overall attitude is like, "Well I don't want to pay for it, so I'll just take it for free". People need to learn the meaning of the phrase "too bad". I mean, people can afford or buy computers but they can't spend a dollar on a song or a few dollars on seeing a movie in theatres?

Yeah too bad. It's great Avatar is #1 everything, it's actually kind of a compliment to say Avatar was pirated more than any other movie this year. But I still say it's too bad. What if that 16.5 million people did it the LEGAL way?

Pirate thread calls for piracy national anthem?

If I had barely any money to feed myself, and I had bought a computer as the cheapest form of entertainment that I could find after saving money for a year or two, I'd be offended if someone came and told me that I must pay for a film that just made a few billion, and it makes me a bad person if I don't.

This used to be the case in my family a long time ago. The only films I had seen were those shown on TV ("seen" is a terrible overstatement given that our TV set was barely working), I never listened to any music or played any game, while all my classmates would tell me about terrific films they've seen, the games that they played on their console or how awesome the new Metallica album is. So naturally, when my parents bought a PC (as an investment to make money with it :D ), I was happy to illegally obtain games and music, and become a happy child. I actually "downloaded" them from the CDs of my friends (no money for Internet) - Lars Ulrich has to be very angry that I pirated Metallica long before Napster existed. And I honestly fail to see how can anyone see that as a bad thing. :embarrassed:

Sure, my parents could buy music and films. I'd just eat less, skip any lessons I took additionally, and I'd skip learning how to use a computer. Only that thanks to all of this I became a more productive member of society, and now I also happen to have enough money to go and see Avatar ten times in cinema bringing someone with me each time and paying for their ticket. But maybe it was a bad thing after all - friends have personally told me that I'm one of the "morons" responsible for making "this joke of a film" the highest grossing film of all time. :D I'm pretty proud of it, actually. :party:

P.S. How would the Na'vi pay if they wanted to show them a film? :D

^Good post. Assuming all 16 million people downloading it didn't see it ONCE in theaters, thats like what another 100-200 million? Avatar made over 2 billion I dont think its hurting for that extra amount...

I think, if torrents did not exist Avatar would have broken 3 billion

I saw Avatar 4 times at cinemas (I would have seen it more except for factors preventing me) got it via torrent before the dvd release and have since purchased the theatrical release on DVD and Blu-Ray, the Collector's Edition DVD and Limited Edition Blu-ray so overall I don't feel that bad for pirating it.

good on ya man. as much as aquiring it before release day is probably classified as pirating, if you the said product when it is made available to you, I really don't see anything wrong with that at all.

Grace would've said "They didn't even have a word for 'money'..." - and why would the Na'vi want to watch a movie, when they can hook up with a Tree of Voices to experience memories via tsaheylu? They would merely laugh at our puny 3D tech.
;)

Wiggling bare toes,

~*Txim Asawl*~

Well I know the feeling. I used to also hear some people talk about movies and stuff they seen. Stuff I didn't even know existed because I had no channels to see commercials. Not to mention, for a long time I had to walk over a mile to get on a computer. I've lived the struggle for most of my life, but THAT kind of stuff never bothered me. Hearing that I have to pay for a movie even though I had little to begin with would be far from offensive to me. I even buy multipule copies of certain items, just to support them.

You said the thing about pirating Metallica and not seeing how people can see it as a bad thing. It's one thing when you pirate a movie, but music is a whole different story. Artists used to make better money before all the illegal downloading. The MOST popular artists right now are only selling like 100-400k of their albums. That's good for today's sales but 10+ years ago, that wasn't nearly as good as it seems today. But sometimes not even the popular artists sell. I am not a fan of Soulja Boy, but I think it's pretty pathetic that being as popular as he is, his album sold 13,000 copies in the first week. And being on a major label rather than independant, you don't see a lot of that money and the labels take a lot of the expenses out of your paycheck. So having to pay all that while barely selling anything, you are not making very much money at all. I'd be suprised if you had $10,000 after all that.

After reading that, I knew what I was going to say, but this post I have quoted below this one pretty much says what I was going to.

That is what I was thinking. People are saying Avatar grossed 2 billion, when it was actually closer to 3. It was like 2.7 or 2.8. If it was not pirated at all, maybe we could have reach the 3 billion mark. :D

I always go to the movies with my friends, i can't understand why anyone would rather see the movie by themselfs in front of their computer ...

Especially a movie like Avatar, i mean, jeese! It was a must-see in 3D! I don't think a lot of people choosed to watch it on their comps INSTEAD in the cinemas either. The comments on the avatar torrent were mostly "DONT SEE IT ON THE COMP! GO SEE IT IN 3D, ITS AMAAAASIIING" back in the days if i remember correctly :)