Did Tsu'tey go to Grace's school?
 

I have this vision of Tsu'tey being the troublesome one at the back of the class, and Neytiri being attentive (yet spirited) and sitting at the front. Tsu'tey writes 'I love you Neytiri XXX Tsu'tey' on a note and asks the younger kids to pass it forward. :P

That, or Neytiri tought him English. -shrugs-

what if Tsu'tey loved Neyney's sister D:

I am sure he did; however, I think Tsu'tey was distrustful of skypeople from the start and the incident at the school only confirmed his suspicions. You see Mo'at in the movie and she is the exact opposite. She seems sympathetic to Grace and Jake.

The upcoming novel will definitely be an interesting read.

I like to think he did. He knows fairly good English. But like mentioned above, I see him sitting in the back of the glass shooting spit wads up at Grace.

I think of Tsu'tey as the hesitant one who came around the school occasionally over the course of its existence, and picked up bits and piece for a short time 'till Grace might've talked to him for a bit. Sort of like a kid who doesn't go to school, but watches from the outside and becomes interested.

That, and considering the fact that he might've been in love with Sylwanin, he could've just been hanging around the school since she was there.

hahaha :P

I also think Tsu'tey may have loves Sylwanin first before she got killed. him going to the school would be the best explanation for his knowing English, and I would guess that Sylwanin being older than Neytiri means she may have been similarly aged to Tsu'tey, who always seemed maybe a few years older than Neytiri, I thought.

He must have surpassed a bit of that animosity towards Grace though, since we see an expression of genuine grief on his face at Grace's death, shared by other clan people at the Tree of Souls just before Jake makes his speech. I wonder, if he went as far as the other Na'vi kids attending the school, calling Grace "mother" at some point.

Wiggling bare toes,

~*Txim Asawl*~

I always thought that maybe Sylwanin was his first choie. It makes sense, too. Neytiri didn't really seem all that interested in him. You see how quickly she was attracted to Jake.

Getting back on topic, I always marveled at his and Grace's relationship throughout the movie. It is combative and yet there is something else to it. Can't figure it out.

possible Tsu'tey at top left? i think he went to the school unless Neytiri teached him English

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It's not Tsu'tey. Different stripe pattern.

I do think he went to the school because I've always thought the bullet hole in his ear was a physical reminder of what happened there. :( (I assume it's a bullet wound because it's just so perfectly circular like a grazing bullet as opposed to some sort of jagged accident from an arrow or animal.)

Photo borrowed from the beautiful caps Susano'o posted in the other characters thread:
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^That's actually a very reasonable explanation for the hole.

:) Thanks. Who knows if I'm right, but that's what it makes me think of every time I see it. I wouldn't trust some dreamwalker after that either.

I was thinking the about Tsu'tey's ear..The shape of the hole got me thinking. ;)

I doubt it. I could be wrong though.

I don't think anyone would be wrong until we get official news on it. ;)

i've always thought it was a bite from an animal, not a bullet hole... very good point

Yeah, Tsu'tey decided he'd let a little Pandoran bird nibble on his ear one day...

;):rolleyes::xD::P

sorry i seem like a retard to you. i'll try and not be so retarded from now on

Nah, I was just thinking about how... an animal could do that to Tsu'tey. It's like saying how a lion slowly approached a person, and then began to sink its teeth in once it was close enough, even though that'd be kinda weird that the person never moved or tried to escape. No digging meant on you or anything; just thinking out loud. ;)

I never thought about how the wound to his ear might have happened. It's a possible explanation, except that a bullet carries a lot of energy so wouldn't do something like that to a human, but then again, the Na'vi are much tougher.

I think even Tsu'tey would have cared about Grace then, and probably still did afterwards, but just hid it better.
Considering who did or didn't go to the school, I would say Mo'at is the only one who most likely didn't, probably learning English form Neytiri and the others.

You know what I've always assumed, was that Eytukan understands English, but just refuses to speak it. Like you said, he probably learned it from Neytiri and others... maybe even Mo'at after she learned it. After all, the Na'vi are very quick to learn things.

...That, and Eytukan seems to know and understand whatever Jake says, even if no one translates for him. He probably doesn't speak the language because of some principle he has or something.

Yes, if it were a human I wouldn't consider the idea so much. However, I just thought maybe that's what they intended because of it's shape. Who knows though. I think you're right about Tsu'tey caring although he tries to hide it.

You know, that makes a lot of sense. I haven't thought about that before, but he does seem to understand, even if he doesn't speak it.

Definitely - that would also mean that most of the Na'vi even who didn't go may at least understand a few words or sentences. Eytukan deciding against speaking it would make sense for him, but he still seemed to be listening when Jake spoke in English.

I am not so sure that Eytukan could speak English. He probably sent Neytiri and Tsu'tey to the school to learn for the sake of knowing more about the skypeople. Eytukan himself was probably too preoccupied with other matters to spend so much time studying another language (maybe he knew a few basic words perhaps). As for Mo'at, I would imagine that she wasn't a full time student but did visit occasionally time permitting.

Eytukan was talking to the others when Jake was explaining who he was in English, without anyone having visibly translated for him (and again before the marines attack Hometree), so I would say he understands English, just chose not to speak it.

Mo'at too?
 

if we go off the fact that tsu'tey can speak english, does this mean that mo'at also went to grace's school?

Well I don't see how else they would have learned the language. Unless it was from someone else who had gone to the school.

I wouldn't mind learning some of the specifics though :)

There's no indication if she did or not. It is likely that she had a part in initial contact with humans though, and could easily have just learned from Neytiri and Sylwanin (her skill in English does seem to be slightly lower than Neytiri's, although Neytiri would obviously have picked up more while being with Jake).

Speaking of, have there been any more deatils on when it'll be released?

No, there haven't. Someone will post when there have been :)

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I agree with Fan Lizard, Na'vi Hero. "All energy is borrowed" is a good analogy of what most spiritual paths believe. If you are a Christian, than it would be very easy for you to believe that we each determine our own "Heaven". We determine what we want, where we would be happiest, and that is what will be made FOR us before we arrive. If you truly desire Pandora, then I believe with ALL my heart that you WILL be there one day.
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