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Isard 01-28-2011 02:19 AM

Just fyi...
 
Peaceful protests in Egypt have turned bloody.

Bloody and bruised: the journalist caught in Egypt unrest | World news | The Guardian

Latest, and possibly last message out of Egypt by freedom forces.

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Also, protests have broken out in Yemen. However, they have remained peaceful showings of force rather than riots. Assuming the government does not escalate things, they will remain peaceful.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/wo...er=rss&emc=rss


Keep them in your prayers. To whatever deity or deities you choose to observe.

Woodsprite 01-28-2011 03:15 AM

About the first article:

So... the police were pretending to be protesters so they could make the real protesters look bad? I'm still not exactly... I still don't understand exactly what the situation was. Were the officers causing the unrest, or the protesters?

Isard 01-28-2011 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 125537)
About the first article:

So... the police were pretending to be protesters so they could make the real protesters look bad? I'm still not exactly... I still don't understand exactly what the situation was. Were the officers causing the unrest, or the protesters?

The protests have been going on peacefully for days. However, the Egyptian government has been blacking out internet access and ramping up anti-protest actions.

Basically, a UK reporter got caught up in a sweep, was beaten, and loaded aboard a truck with hundreds of other civilians to be taken who knows where.

One of the protesters was the son of an influential figure in the government apparently.

Советский меч 01-28-2011 05:03 AM

Ill be sure to keep them in my thoughts. Somewhere between "my ass hurts in this chair" and "I gotta take a dump". I have no sympathy for them. They wanna revolt? They knew what they were getting into. I'm all for a good riot every once in a while, but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of any and all risks involved, or that I'm gonna lose any sleep over a rioter who gets taken by the authorities.

Apollo 01-28-2011 05:37 AM

I always ask myself on what I can do about this. I'm just a single person who likes to wag his finger like an old coot.

Woodsprite 01-28-2011 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Советский медве (Post 125553)
Ill be sure to keep them in my thoughts. Somewhere between "my ass hurts in this chair" and "I gotta take a dump". I have no sympathy for them. They wanna revolt? They knew what they were getting into.

...But they were peaceful protests.

Isard 01-28-2011 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsprite (Post 125568)
...But they were peaceful protests.


^^^^^This.


Peaceful show of force, and reasonable demands considering their economic situation. The Arab world is changing rapidly, without intervention, and with peaceful movements. (So far, Egypt's government is the only one to react to protesting with "**** them up" force.)

Pa'li Makto 01-28-2011 08:58 AM

From what I've heard, the Egyptian people have caught wind of the uprising of the people of Tunisia against their corrupt government. Which is getting some results as far as I know with President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali fleeing with his family. Tunisia | Riots | Unrest

All the Egyptian people are doing is to gain some stability in their lives, through protest they can see a way to achieve this in a way. There is also similar action taking place in Lebanon against the new Hezbollah backed government. I think that everyone has a right to protest, It is a way to make your cause heard.

ISV Venture Star 01-28-2011 09:34 AM

Egypt has left the internet!

In other news, Wikileaks is releasing Egypt related cables.

Helicoradian 01-28-2011 10:58 AM

Considering the recent actions of the Egyptian government and having internet traffic cut off, not a good position to be in :( Things will be getting much worse...

ISV Venture Star 01-28-2011 12:21 PM

Yeah, this does not bode well for the people of Egypt. Whatever their government is planning to do it clearly doesn't want the world to see. :(

Apollo 01-28-2011 12:59 PM

They haven't stolen their video cameras yet... it'll leak eventually. The fact that their internet has been cut will arouse immense suspicion. I bet spies are already on the case.

Human No More 01-28-2011 02:16 PM

Definitely. Here comes another revolution... :)

As for the loss of the internet from Egypt, I can't wait to see what they does to their economy. This government need to face facts: Not only are they going down, but this looks like a scorched earth policy to me. Even more reason for them to go. As was mentioned above, information always finds its way out.

Tsyal Makto 01-28-2011 10:32 PM

Revolutionaries always find a way, even if the government tries to put the boots down, the people will find a way to fight it. Somehow...somehow...the fight will go on.

I don't really think the Egyptian government knows how deep this goes, or the entire Arab world for that matter. This has been a powderkeg of anger that has been growing for decades, if not longer, and every year, the right-wing religious, economic, and social repression that grips that society causes that powderkeg to fill a little more. It was inevitable that eventually something would set it off (quite ironically the self-immolation of Mohammed Bouazizi).

If the Egyptian (and soon Yemenese) government wants this to involve as little bloodshed as possible, they should just step aside, but unfortunately it doesn't look like it will go down like that.

Isard 01-29-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto (Post 125716)
Revolutionaries always find a way, even if the government tries to put the boots down, the people will find a way to fight it. Somehow...somehow...the fight will go on.

I don't really think the Egyptian government knows how deep this goes, or the entire Arab world for that matter. This has been a powderkeg of anger that has been growing for decades, if not longer, and every year, the right-wing religious, economic, and social repression that grips that society causes that powderkeg to fill a little more. It was inevitable that eventually something would set it off (quite ironically the self-immolation of Mohammed Bouazizi).

If the Egyptian (and soon Yemenese) government wants this to involve as little bloodshed as possible, they should just step aside, but unfortunately it doesn't look like it will go down like that.


Right wing elements are the ones revolting. Just so you know.


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