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Советский меч 03-06-2011 04:00 AM

SOrry bro wrong car I meant 2010 coupe my bad.

Hondas specs:
Engine Type In-Line 4-Cylinder
Engine Block/Cylinder Head Aluminum-Alloy
Displacement (cc) 2354 3471
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net) 190 @ 7000
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 162 @ 4400
Redline 7100
Weight 3184 pounds.

Fighter-of-Wars 03-06-2011 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanley_9875 (Post 132418)
he also is a front wheel drive whereas you're a rear wheel, you'll get more traction off the line than he will (depends on how hard he punches the throttle but he'll have wheel hop to deal with)

This could go both ways. The Charger has got some pretty good low end torque so if you aren't running some decent tires you will spin 1/4 of the way down the track and prolly end up sideways into the wall. A little babying off the line till you get good traction to power then hammer down and when you see stars shift.

Stanley_9875 03-06-2011 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighter-of-Wars (Post 132419)
Pretty much what was said above.

But this really only applies in a straight up drag race. Throw a few curves in there and the older car will suffer very badly. Unless it has suspension upgrades.

Older cars sit higher, are more top heavy, and the suspension is looser so when you hit bumps, curves it will effect your steering.

But then again, if you get an inexperienced driver in the GTO and someone who knows what they are doing in the G35 a lot of things can happen. For example if the G35 has more gears than the GTO that will be in favor of the G35 because it will allow the driver to keep the engine in its power band.

And for racing, please do it on a strip with proper safety gear. When I first got my license I thought I could race anyone in my Cougar and get away with it, was almost in two wrecks. Going 110 down a straight away and hit a bump, it threw the front of the car up in the air and jerked the steering wheel out of my hands. And later I almost slid into a train trying to stop from racing down the same straight.

Good luck on getting a Judge, very cool cars. And remember, when you hit the stip pull the Air-Ram handle under the dash for a few more horses. :)

Experience : Racing Cars and building engines for 5 years ;)

agreed, plus newer cars are lighter and are a little better suspension wise so they would have the advantage cornering and such, but I think he was just talking a straight-away... but you brought up good points

and with the street racing? yea like I mentioned before wasnt the smartest thing I've done (seen too many accidents)... just be safe mate =)

tm20 03-06-2011 07:48 AM

how about a prius, it uses less fuel. if not, a six fo

*oh and btw.... 69 GTO
http://www.ercruisers.com/car_pics/1..._GTO_Judge.jpg

69 charger
http://www.chargerclubofwa.asn.au/ad...69charger1.jpg

as if you wouldn't go for the charger... IMO it looks better, you can always swap out the engine and get better suspension kits, transmission etc...

Советский меч 03-06-2011 04:24 PM

I like the chargers looks but Im gonna get the 1968 grille on it.

applejuice 03-06-2011 04:51 PM

Hmm... If you want top speed, you need a light car and an engine with high RPMs, if you want manoeuvrability, you will need a car that generates traction at low speeds. For road cars, the weight of the car usually determines that, as well as other factors such as suspension, ride height, etc. A car with a high ride height is not very manoeuvrable, it's very likely to roll over when trying to take a curve at high speeds. A heavy car will generate traction at low speeds and will be able to take curves (within a limit, of course) more easily than a light car. It is a compromise, like the setup of a F1 car, for street circuits like Monaco, the car needs a lot of downforce but that limits the top speed (a "slow" track). Monza is different, the car needs top speed, therefore the car will need to be "discharged" (a "fast" track).

Советский меч 03-06-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by applejuice (Post 132524)
Hmm... If you want top speed, you need a light car and an engine with high RPMs, if you want manoeuvrability, you will need a car that generates traction at low speeds. For road cars, the weight of the car usually determines that, as well as other factors such as suspension, ride height, etc. A car with a high ride height is not very manoeuvrable, it's very likely to roll over when trying to take a curve at high speeds. A heavy car will generate traction at low speeds and will be able to take curves (within a limit, of course) more easily than a light car. It is a compromise, like the setup of a F1 car, for street circuits like Monaco, the car needs a lot of downforce but that limits the top speed (a "slow" track). Monza is different, the car needs top speed, therefore the car will need to be "discharged" (a "fast" track).

How would I do all of that in a '69 charger?

applejuice 03-06-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Советский меч (Post 132525)
How would I do all of that in a '69 charger?

Well... you can't. As mentioned above, if your purpose is competition, I think there are better cars. If your purpose is not competition, then you have to ponder the choices you have. Road cars come as a whole package and it is not easy to go beyond the specifications. If you want a car for the looks, then you know what car will suit you. Power does not automatically grant manoeuvrability or reliability. That's why it is so important to know a car's specifications.

Советский меч 03-06-2011 05:17 PM

My purpose isn't competition, I just want a really powerful car. That will most certainly be faster than my friends cars.

applejuice 03-06-2011 05:20 PM

Ah, then you have picked already :gwink: A big engine in this case means more power. The 69 charger will do fine against a current street car. But it is always good to know the limits of the car. Be safe.

Советский меч 03-06-2011 08:47 PM

Have actually decided to get a 2007-2009 Shelby GT500. I know it seems like I'm not sure about what I really want but this is it. I would have mentioned this car in the first place but the fact that it looks identical to a mustang made me not want it. However I found a body kit I can get to make it look very badass.

Stanley_9875 03-06-2011 09:01 PM

You can always upgrade the car as well hehe, stuff like upgraded suspension (sway bars and the like) engine mods (intake, headers, exhaust, turbo kits, ect.)

Fighter-of-Wars 03-06-2011 11:05 PM

Post pics when you get it!

nickl630 03-07-2011 04:22 AM

Having owned a 06 G35, I can say they're pigs, slow and underpowered.

nickl630 03-07-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Советский меч (Post 132576)
Have actually decided to get a 2007-2009 Shelby GT500. I know it seems like I'm not sure about what I really want but this is it. I would have mentioned this car in the first place but the fact that it looks identical to a mustang made me not want it. However I found a body kit I can get to make it look very badass.

If your in that price range, consider a 06+ Vette or Z06. They'll blow the GT500 out of the water in the corners and on the straights in some cases. The GT500 while powerful has a ton of body roll in the corners and is overweight, plus it DRINKS gas (I know, not a concern of a sports car) but with gas at 3.80 ATM its something to think about.


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