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Human No More 05-26-2011 09:55 PM

More of the Amazon at risk
 
Slash and burn: Brazil shreds laws protecting its rainforests - Nature, Environment - The Independent


:'(

Petition here: Avaaz - Hours left to save our forests!

Advent 05-27-2011 02:21 AM

I'm getting old signing these petitions...

applejuice 05-27-2011 03:46 AM

This is a very delicate situation for Brazil. Not long ago, the reports of increased deforestation made the Environment Minister call for a Crisis Cabinet. IIRC, Rousseff was also instructing the Brazilian Army to take part in this matter (to stop the indiscriminate deforestation). Unfortunately, the new laws are being interpreted as an "amnesty", in that way, farmers will try to expand their lands. But there's good news, Rousseff promised she will veto any law containing amnesty clauses.

Marvellous Chester 05-27-2011 11:23 AM

Petitions just don't work, the only language governments understand is violence. I get the impression too few people care enough to put their foot down and say no to the decision :(

applejuice 05-28-2011 02:47 AM

There's a more effective language than violence in this case: $$$$.

Tsyal Makto 05-28-2011 05:24 AM

You sell your soul either way though.

Advent 05-28-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto (Post 143975)
You sell your soul either way though.

In your opinion. For me, ends justify the means. Every time.

Tsyal Makto 05-28-2011 05:51 PM

I agree. Don't get me wrong, "forceful" means of stopping this could be justified, even if they are considered evil means. I firmly believe in necessary evil, I just don't like committing them, but I will if forced to.

Advent 05-29-2011 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto (Post 144015)
I agree. Don't get me wrong, "forceful" means of stopping this could be justified, even if they are considered evil means. I firmly believe in necessary evil, I just don't like committing them, but I will if forced to.

Well I suppose it's our only option now anyway. The government is like an animal with no eyes and no ears. To get it's attention, you have to give it a push.

applejuice 05-30-2011 12:12 AM

It depends on what kind of government one is dealing with. Usually, a corrupt government will stop any action if there's enough money for the "leader" as a gift. A dictator would see no limits to its force and would kill anyone who stands on its way. There are those which act as Law mandates (usually, those are the worst in this case) and there are the puppets which will do anything commanded to them. There are governments that are moderate with action and would consider all critics before making a decision. Controversy is everywhere and I haven't seen any news of Brazil, especially of this lately.


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