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Human No More 09-29-2011 01:29 AM

It's a great idea to have, but the main question is whether it holds up in reality... I think it can, but it's almost impossible to always do so.

Theorist 09-29-2011 02:16 AM

I can't control my emotions, only how to I react to them. I don't know why certain things make me feel certain ways (it'd be cool if I did). I'm just trying to work on the reacting part.

iron_jones 09-29-2011 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Theorist (Post 158180)
I can't control my emotions, only how to I react to them. I don't know why certain things make me feel certain ways (it'd be cool if I did). I'm just trying to work on the reacting part.

It's hard, man.
I'd say about 90% of the time I write a post and then decide to not post it usually because it's either me disagreeing with someone or I know people will strongly disagree with it.

Pa'li Makto 09-29-2011 03:13 AM

I think that happens to all of us. We all try to keep the peace.

Theorist 09-29-2011 03:47 AM

I definitely agree there, I just wrote a post, and went back and edited it over and over trying to make sure it was offensive. kinda frustrating, but it's how we have to go along to keep the peace for now.

Pa'li Makto 09-29-2011 03:56 AM

Yep, it's for a good cause. ;) Plus I hope that no one here really wants to offend anyone anyway, even if by accident. ;)

Moco Loco 09-29-2011 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by theorist (Post 158191)
trying to make sure it was offensive.

orly? :p

iron_jones 09-29-2011 04:02 AM

No one WANTS to offend people. But everyone is offended by different things and some are quicker to be offended.

So instead we should all just hug and dance!

Pa'li Makto 09-29-2011 04:14 AM

Great idea! *hugs everyone and dances*

Theorist 09-29-2011 11:21 AM

That's like my perfect dream, we all hug and dance around a fire pit somewhere in the forest, and sing songs and play music.

Pa'li Makto 09-30-2011 01:15 AM

That dream can be attainable, it just takes time and effort on everyone's part.

iron_jones 09-30-2011 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Theorist (Post 158239)
That's like my perfect dream, we all hug and dance around a fire pit somewhere in the forest, and sing songs and play music.

I'm all down with huggin' and grindin on some bitches but I don't know if I'ma dance round a fire. I'll just play the drum. :P

GhostTiger 10-03-2011 06:46 AM

Wow I have no idea what's been going on while I was away dealing with some personal stuff...

I just want to say I know I'm late to the party here... Not only with what's going on, I mean to ToS period. I didn't join until this year, but I truly do feel like I know some of you and I would like to know more of you better. I think this is a lovely place to all come together, and so I hope whatever has happened here can be fixed for all parties involved.

Group hug? lol :)

iron_jones 10-03-2011 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GhostTiger (Post 158662)
Wow I have no idea what's been going on while I was away dealing with some personal stuff...

I just want to say I know I'm late to the party here... Not only with what's going on, I mean to ToS period. I didn't join until this year, but I truly do feel like I know some of you and I would like to know more of you better. I think this is a lovely place to all come together, and so I hope whatever has happened here can be fixed for all parties involved.

Group hug? lol :)

Hug? I'll give ya a nice french kiss ;) :P

But yeah, things seem to be going smoothly once again for the most part.
This truly is a great place.

GhostTiger 10-03-2011 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by iron_jones (Post 158664)
Hug? I'll give ya a nice french kiss ;) :P

But yeah, things seem to be going smoothly once again for the most part.
This truly is a great place.

Haha okay. Well, good! :)

Human No More 10-03-2011 10:24 PM

I'm not even sure. I've been trying, since that whole incident, but sometimes things just don't feel right now, like it's changed people's perceptions of this.

Moco Loco 11-03-2011 07:58 PM

:S I don't think I really understood this at first, but now I'm starting to get it. Debates never put me off before, but now that I've had a chance to see the way they repeat and spiral down, I'm kind of sad that we can't all be a little less heavy about everything.

Aquaplant 11-03-2011 08:57 PM

Debates are fine as long as we remember to not take them too seriously, but at times people can get carried away by emotions and whatnot, so it's not always that easy. Still, always remember that it takes at least two to argue, so if you find something frustrating, then don't partake in it. Personally I'm far too stubborn to follow such guidelines, but I try to acknowledge my faults and not rile people up too much.

Tsyal Makto 11-03-2011 10:08 PM

It's because all too often people put their egos on the line in debates.

Human No More 11-04-2011 04:00 PM

That's the problem.

Nobody can actually talk about such things because all they are actually doing is stating why they believe they are right and therefore so great, as an ego thing. That of course can't go unchallenged by others, so they respond. Nobody discusses anything, they just fight. Keeping this forum going with 'debates' on it is like treating a lung cancer sufferer who insists on still smoking 10 packs per day.

Aquaplant 11-04-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 162042)
Keeping this forum going with 'debates' on it is like treating a lung cancer sufferer who insists on still smoking 10 packs per day.

Is it really that bad?

Removing the debate forum would probably just move the debating into the general discussion and other areas of potential disagreement, so what exactly do you mean by keeping the debates on so to speak?

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 12:46 AM

The thing that I'm worried about is that this week there has been hardly any activity on these forums..I'm not sure if people are just busy on weekdays or if more people are spending less time on here.

I agree with Aquaplant here, if we close the debate threads then debates could leak into the general forums..

tm20 11-05-2011 12:52 AM

i blame the increasing amount of ponies

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 12:54 AM

:P Naww let them have their fun.

tm20 11-05-2011 01:01 AM

i think the debates should be done on web cam chats.... then we'll see if people really have the balls to say their opinions to each other's faces 8D

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 01:06 AM

Good idea! That would be so much better. There would be less misunderstandings that way as well.

tm20 11-05-2011 01:09 AM

exactly, because written words dont convey true emotions

Moco Loco 11-05-2011 01:49 AM

LOL that would be fun :xD:

Icu 11-05-2011 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tm20 (Post 162099)
i think the debates should be done on web cam chats.... then we'll see if people really have the balls to say their opinions to each other's faces 8D

I'd be interested in this :)

iron_jones 11-05-2011 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tm20 (Post 162099)
i think the debates should be done on web cam chats.... then we'll see if people really have the balls to say their opinions to each other's faces 8D

Oh goodness, I'd be on there once before I'm told never to return again.

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 05:25 AM

Now who would say something like that? :P

iron_jones 11-05-2011 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto (Post 162130)
Now who would say something like that? :P

Everyone. It's best I type my thoughts or I get quite vulgar.

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 06:59 AM

I wouldn't say something mean to you Iron Jones, no matter how vulgar you could get. You're just the way you are. ;)
To be honest I think it's bad to say anything mean to/about anyone. It would be easier if people followed Gadhi's non violent and peaceful resistance philosophy.

Aquaplant 11-05-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto (Post 162095)
The thing that I'm worried about is that this week there has been hardly any activity on these forums..I'm not sure if people are just busy on weekdays or if more people are spending less time on here.

I for one am more of a reactionary poster than anything else, so any lack of activity usually leads to more lack of activity on my part. Also, I have an uncanny ability to scare people by writing stuff so that they interpret it in the worst possible way.

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I agree with Aurora here, if we close the debate threads then debates could leak into the general forums..
I'm really not that much like her, am I?

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Originally Posted by tm20 (Post 162097)
i blame the increasing amount of ponies

I have to ask Isard for some more Fluttershy to mellow this place a bit. In the meantime, here is some first aid.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...na-d3jslnu.jpg

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Originally Posted by tm20 (Post 162099)
i think the debates should be done on web cam chats.... then we'll see if people really have the balls to say their opinions to each other's faces 8D

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Originally Posted by tm20 (Post 162102)
exactly, because written words dont convey true emotions

xkcd: Internet Argument

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 11:21 AM

Ooops sorry my moment of concentration lapsed then sorry Aquaplant. Will edit post in 3, 2, 1.

Also that link to that site: Though webcams and face to face arguments there might be more clarity then in text based posts.

Aquaplant 11-05-2011 03:09 PM

No worries, I just find it amusing that someone would confuse two people who couldn't really be more different, but the brain is funny that way when it doesn't always work as intended.

And yes, moving from text based communication to verbal one usually improves the amount of understanding passed between participants, but they always eventually just lead to this.

Pa'li Makto 11-05-2011 10:31 PM

Brilliant find! That can be quite true. Or someone ends up walking away.

Clarke 11-06-2011 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto (Post 162147)
Ooops sorry my moment of concentration lapsed then sorry Aquaplant. Will edit post in 3, 2, 1.

Also that link to that site: Though webcams and face to face arguments there might be more clarity then in text based posts.

I find that there is less, since I'm not able to write an argument as fast as I can actually say it aloud. :P By the time I've actually thought through the point and made sure it's correct, someone in RL would be left waiting.

Pa'li Makto 11-06-2011 08:42 AM

They could see that you would be thinking and hopefully wouldn't mind too much.

Aquaplant 11-06-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarke (Post 162189)
I find that there is less, since I'm not able to write an argument as fast as I can actually say it aloud. :P By the time I've actually thought through the point and made sure it's correct, someone in RL would be left waiting.

As a fellow slow thinker I would agree with that concept, but no matter how well one articulates their point in words, someone is bound to interpret them in a wrong way. And as it is typical to internet conversation, rather than asking for clarification, they usually jump to their own conclusions and start throwing counter accusations or whatever.


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