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Pa'li Makto 09-28-2011 07:44 AM

Clouds: A reflection
 
A patch of blue way up high,
overpowered by beaten white peaks of cloud in the sky.
A little girl watches as the wind blows,
she feels her mind slowly ebb away from reality.
A ruined castle sits undisturbed,
abandoned amongst the lush green fields.
Alone she waits.


Far back into the past,
a Crusader kneels in a courtyard.
Watched from all sides by archers atop high ramparts.
He kneels, his tattered tunic stained with blood.
The blood of the innocent; woman, man and child.
He stares up at the sky, the very sky gazed on by his forefathers and his children.
His eyes brim with tears,
hot metal sears the flesh in his back.
Penance is demanded.
The Crusader is still and ever silent.
A patch of blue reflected in his tears.




Just a small poem that I wrote when after I played a bit of Clive Barker's Jericho today; with the main menu music in my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLfncjjroec It made me think about just how close time wise we are to our medieval ancestors. It's was only 1095 when Pope Urban II proclaimed the first Crusade and sent many to their deaths and created a system of systematic bloodshed that would only end at the conclusion of the ninth crusade in 1272. When you look up at the sky, you can imagine an ancestor, in a different time looking back at the same sky.

Advent 09-28-2011 09:41 AM

Interesting. Very interesting...

Moco Loco 09-28-2011 09:00 PM

In my mind I picture a view of Earth from space :P

Pa'li Makto 09-29-2011 03:12 AM

Cool idea!! :)

Moco Loco 09-29-2011 04:20 AM

Like everything that has ever happened, happened right here :3

Pa'li Makto 09-29-2011 05:36 AM

That's what I thought of in a way when I look up at the sky. You can imagine a human from thousands of years ago looking up at the same sky; minus the cloud variations of course. :P

Empty Glass 09-29-2011 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moco Loco (Post 158207)
Like everything that has ever happened, happened right here :3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto (Post 158212)
That's what I thought of in a way when I look up at the sky. You can imagine a human from thousands of years ago looking up at the same sky; minus the cloud variations of course. :P

Now you're making me think of what one man once said about a certain pale blue dot! :gsmile:

Pa'li Makto 09-29-2011 09:29 AM

And what was that? ;)

Empty Glass 09-29-2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Sagan
...Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam...

:gsmile:

Pa'li Makto 09-30-2011 12:22 AM

Oh I see. That's very philosophical. :)

Empty Glass 09-30-2011 08:03 AM

Here - give this a listen:







I'm sorry if I'm derailing your thread Pa'li Makto, but I just admire Carl Sagan's awesome voice among other things. :D You'll also see the specific photograph I've been thinking of. ;)

Pa'li Makto 09-30-2011 10:46 AM

Hey no problem, I'm not annoyed at all, I'm quite happy that you've given this some thought. :)
Cool video by the way! I see the pic too. :)

apache_blanca 09-30-2011 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto (Post 158212)
That's what I thought of in a way when I look up at the sky. You can imagine a human from thousands of years ago looking up at the same sky; minus the cloud variations of course. :P

Interesting your poem, Pa'li. I have flashes like this^^^too, & I just wonder:hmm::rolleyes::awesome:. It gives me chills but not in a bad way - it's like a contact with "some other knowledge". A bit like in the pic in my signature :P

I liked Car Sagan's quote :) altho I can't watch the video right now - skiving! :shock:

Pa'li Makto 10-01-2011 01:24 AM

Thanks Apache, I get chills too. It's an interesting concept to think about, especially when you relate it to the small amount of time the humanity have had civilisations. ;) Circa 3500BC.

apache_blanca 10-01-2011 07:57 PM

The weirdest thing happened to me once: I was looking at... myself across the centuries :shock:

I was knitting on a sofa & listening to this tune:







& started seeing "a movie in my head" - the images of snow, fir trees, mountains... I wondered, what that was, & step by step it unfolded into a story where I was a hunter in a tribe somewhere near the Great Lakes. It was a very cold & cruel winter, people & animals were dying I went with other hunters further away to get food - but we were lost during a snow storm, & when I - the only survivor (I thought) - came back, everybody of my clan died :'(:'(:'( I was feeling horrible, my life had no meaning anymore. Only one baby survived, so I made him some food & went on with him looking for other people. But it was screaming all the time, & of course attracted the wolves. I couldn't fight them well cos I was holding it with one hand. Suddenly other hunters appeared, I threw the baby to them but I was already dying of blood loss. But the others managed to fight the wolves off & carried the baby with them. At least someone survived; that was the last thing I thought.
When I died too, I watched the whole scene from somewhere above thru some golden mist, my dead body didn't matter anymore. What mattered was - did I do the right thing? It turned out "yes" cos altho I didn't manage to save the others from my tribe at least I tried to the best of my ability.

And then was it, the weirdest thing: somehow, "me the hunter who died" & "me the knitter on the sofa" were looking at each other thru some impossible "time & space hole":shock: I remember that, as a hunter, I found this place where "me the woman" was sitting very strange cos it was all angles, it was full of square lifeless things, & people even had their food in boxes. But they didn't have to die of cold & hunger anymore. They were comfortable - but they were also sort of imprisoned in their security. "I the hunter" didn't have the time to ponder which life was better cos the vision dissolved. But I guess I would still prefer the freedom...

Weird, eh.

Pa'li Makto 10-01-2011 08:58 PM

Awww that's such a sad dream. :( Though the end is very, very interesting. You got a tribal hunters perspective on the world today.
The music is really cool Apache!!

apache_blanca 10-01-2011 09:40 PM

yes it was a very sad experience :'(:'(:'( in fact it was a spontaneous regression; I didn't know what it was or what to do - somehow, the music triggered it, & I just "saw a movie" & left it at that - but Eywa, the feeling of loneliness & cold that I had for weeks after that! Since then I read a lot of books on PLT & that's why I am such a nuissance - insisting on finding a professional if anyone wants to make a tour into past lives out of curiousity, because things like this can happen, & they have to be healed. In the end - iirc - I went to meditate cos I really wanted to feel better. I don't remember how it went but somehow I sorted it... mmmm... maybe I made it a statement: "Right, now I know what happened - but this story belongs to the past, it's over, & from now on I will be surrounded by loving people, & will never suffer from cold or hunger! I'll be just fine!" This is the "healing part" usually: change something negative into something positive.

And the music... I love this Sacred Spirit album. I don't have time to look for it now, but it's on YouTube if you want to have a look. Some tracks are mind blowing.

Pa'li, Going back to your poem :) I am just curious if you're interested in crusades times, the knights & those times in general? Cos I know you're fascinated by the Maya :) the crusades seems to be yet another facet... if I got anything right at all... Just wondering.


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