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Why don't we look at some slogans that protesters are putting up in the movement and we can see what the intentions of the people here are.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...69_634x414.jpg http://www.3news.co.nz/Portals/0-Art...street-2-2.jpg http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/wp-c...ry-wall-st.jpg They have reasonable demands..Democratic demands. It seems like there aren't just students in this movement Iron Jones. You have ex servicemen, families, workers ect. Here's a link: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...treet-protests |
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I think bankers have actually manged to piss off every demographic in the country.
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It's no surprise. The economic crisis has hit almost every one in the country..
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I've always been afraid of crazy student debt :( I stay away from it and go to my cheapy local school, UNO :D
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Anyway I just spent the day setting up and getting ready for my areas Occupy event. By the end of the week we plan to have a crowd gathering daily. |
The price of books is ****ing outrageous.
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I'm paying $10000 a semester to become an Environmental Policy...ier...person...maker...person who does Environmental stuff. What's worse is I plan to go to Law School after I graduate!
We had a decent turnout yesterday and it looks like the next couple of nights will involve lots of meetings and organizing. We should be out and on the streets by the weekend. |
These school costs are crazy. I do not blame people to at least want what is common here. I paid about 100€ per semester for the student organization at the uni and occasionally some money for books that were not available at the student library plus the money for travel to do field trips. Oh and about 100€ or so for paper, a geologists hammer and compass. And that university is not one of the worst at all. In fact it has gotten an "excellency award". For the last 5 years though, there is an (in the eyes of students outrageously high) tuition of 500€ per semester, but that is crumbling again.
Maybe this is "socialist" or "communist", but I think it is a very fair and good thing to give all students - poor or rich - the opportunity to study whatever they want without loading themselves in debt. Oh and its not even just working people, students, soldiers,... its the elders as well: :D http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...ad-as-hell.jpg |
I don't care about reforms coming from the right or the left wing anymore, I want reforms to deal with problems and sort them out. I want practical solutions, whatever the color, wherever they come from; for as long as it makes our lives easier and our society fairer.
The common people, us, can't change society right here and right now because we have been left powerless in the only two ways we could make a stand: politics and economics. On politics, democracy is working in such way that two parties are always even and always opposing, leading to decisions being made by a really small difference of votes, and with a constant opposition by the rest of the "loser" party. Demonstrations, signatures, any way of direct action is meaningless or illegal; it's not the people who decides but their representatives. On economics we can't act upon our own sense of morals and justice without being dismissed for it and replaced by anyone else with less concerns about anything they're asked to do or how it could affect their society. It seems as though the deal is about us and not the market's demands. Making this situation even worse is unemployment, what restricts our choice even more and leads to us working in jobs we need but are a waste of time and effort, or live without a regular income or any safety for the future. Who's causing this? If I'm not agreeing with actually occupying Wall Street it's because it's not a single problem and it's not a single person, or a group of persons. A great part of the problem is that there is one, but nobody knows how to target the cause. It's like having the symptoms and knowing that the person is ill, but not knowing the disease -and giving the patient the wrong medicine will either make him worse, or kill him. This is the part we must be the most careful about. We cannot make mistakes on determining what is exactly causing this "global pandemic" if we want to solve it, in spite of how difficult it is; but we can't either just stay arms crossed, ignoring the problem and keep giving the ill painkillers like we've been doing to the present moment. We will be only making the agony longer. We know things are bad. But when are we going to make happen and put in common our goals and solutions to deal with it? Again. I don't care what is your side, what you believe in or which is your income. If you have a solution that is practical, if you know how to deal with the problem; that's a solution I want to count on. |
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You're thinking of socialism, we've covered communism and why it doesn't work. |
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As for signs, 'billionaires, your time is up' - seems like communism to me. |
Hey that's really unfair..Haven't you looked into the movement at all. It's widespread and involving so many different types of people. I find your assumptions to be pretty insulting to people in the USA who have suffered more then people in the UK and Australia.
You have to realise HNM, communism is more like this: "a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party." Why should billionaires be more privileged then every other person in the country? It's not democratic at all..and the fury towards billionaires and corporate greed doesn't have to be communist/left wing/anarchist. You have decent human beings here. |
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