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Theorist 12-18-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 165498)
When I bought the CE blu-ray, I was thinking to myself that now I will finally watch it again, but somehow I feel, a revulsion of sorts when I think about it.

I mean my last time was one of the last remaining original theatrical showings in February 2010, and since then I just don't feel like watching it anymore. I don't really know why. There is this strange apathy about where I don't care about a lot of things, and when the things I do care about are unavailable, it is as if everything else just feels so meaningless.

That is the worst feeling, but I know exactly what you mean. It's terrible, because the boredom breeds more boredom.

Moco Loco 12-18-2011 10:47 PM

I leave it on while I'm doing things, but today will be the first day I've seen it since the meetup :)

TheIknimaya 12-19-2011 12:35 AM

Hello everyone, I haven't posted here since May 29th of this year although I've been lurking here almost every day, I just never got around to posting.

Seeing as how today is December 18th 2011, and that Avatar was released in North America on December 18th 2009, I felt it was necessary to watch Avatar again.

I myself saw Avatar for the first time on February 18th 2010, and the last time I watched Avatar was February 18th of this year, to mark my one year anniversary of seeing Avatar.

Today I watched the original theatrical version, because I felt it was fitting seeing as how that was the version that introduced myself and so many other people to the wonderful world of Avatar and Pandora. The magic of Avatar, for me, is still very much alive and I still love it very much and I don't think that will ever fade. :)

I'm also wearing my Avatar T-Shirt as well. :)

Oel Ngati Kameie Aysmukan si Aysmuké.

misstammie 12-19-2011 02:32 AM

HAPPY AVATAR DAY EVERYONE!! It's hard to believe that it's 2 yrs since AVATAR came out and look at where we are today. Thanks to AVATAR , my eyes were opened and I learned "to see" my life and the world around me. The best part of it all is the wonderful friendships I have made over the last couple of years thanks to a common bond and interest we have all shared; AVATAR.

Hope everyone had a beautiful day and thank you all for the fantastic friendships and the love you have shown me. Oel ngati kameie. Irayo ma ayeylan.
:):kiss:;)

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Aquaplant 12-19-2011 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Theorist (Post 165499)
That is the worst feeling, but I know exactly what you mean. It's terrible, because the boredom breeds more boredom.

Indeed, but boredom and apathy aren't really synonyms that way, because boredom means that you can't do anything you would want to do, while apathy means you don't want to do anything. In other words, boredom breeds apathy.

apache_blanca 12-19-2011 03:49 PM

Miss Tammie, beautiful Happy Avatar Day card! :awesome:

I was reading the posts & thinking: "Yes, yes... I feel this way, too!" but this pic really clicked me back into "the Avatar feeling". I don't know how to describe it but you, the family, surely know what I mean :rolleyes:

the other day I was talking to a relative about "my forum" :awesome::love:, the upcoming 2012 Uniting The Clans meetup, Our Only Home video... she said: "Wow, this movie seems to have really changed the world!"

Well... yeah! it changed us - we are part of the world - so hell yeah, it did change the world! Way to go :)

Niri Te 12-19-2011 04:33 PM

There is a thing we could call inertia of spirit. There are probably those who make their millions from raping the earth, that probably saw the movie, (it WAS that popular), who then thought, "Great graphics, REALLY cool model making, and a state of the art computer system has made an escapist story VERY believable".
Those of us who were already struggling to live within the bounds of environmental sanity, and those who were open minded, but somewhat undecided as to what the ecological truths were, took a different message from the experience, however. They, meaning WE, took it as a call to action. A story line that was fictional, for the sake of entertainment, but the underlying thrust of the movie was a great allegory on just what is happening to the planet.
Has the movie CHANGED that much? I don't think so, what it HAS done though, is brought more folks to the realization of how badly unbridled greed can blind people, and institutions to it's dark underbelly.
I think that it has solidified the battle lines, so to speak, in the upcoming war of the minds over the future of this planet.
Ateyo te syaksyuk and I moved out to the county in Texas with, by far, the lowest population density. Purely rural, consisting of very spread out farms and ranches that are measured not in acres, but in sections.
Seven years after we moved out here in 2003, it was discovered that there are Rare Earth deposits under three of the mountains in Hudspeth County. two of them within thirty miles of our place.
There is this desert lizard that is indigenous to this area that has been declared endangered, that will shut down a lot of oil drilling in the several hundred square mile area that we live in the middle of, but will likely not even slow down the exploratory drilling at the base of those mountains because of the magic six words, "In the Interest of National Security".
We will see what happens, but as the quality of life, and environmental purity of this county goes straight into the toilet, the land values will go right through the ceiling. When we lose all the legal challenges that we can mount
against the firms that can smell the many millions that can be made ripping the earth open, (The only REALISTIC "war" we can make on "the company"), and Eywa does not come to our aid, the two of us will sell our 80 acres with it's private airstrip for a bunch of money, get a large sailboat, and sail it down to one of the largely uninhabited island Archipelagos, and SHOOT ANYONE who comws within gun scope equipped range of our boat.
Moderators are welcome to cross post this if they wish.
Niri Te

Fosus 12-19-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by taylorcraftbc65 (Post 165546)
There is a thing we could call inertia of spirit. There are probably those who make their millions from raping the earth, that probably saw the movie, (it WAS that popular), who then thought, "Great graphics, REALLY cool model making, and a state of the art computer system has made an escapist story VERY believable".
Those of us who were already struggling to live within the bounds of environmental sanity, and those who were open minded, but somewhat undecided as to what the ecological truths were, took a different message from the experience, however. They, meaning WE, took it as a call to action. A story line that was fictional, for the sake of entertainment, but the underlying thrust of the movie was a great allegory on just what is happening to the planet.
Has the movie CHANGED that much? I don't think so, what it HAS done though, is brought more folks to the realization of how badly unbridled greed can blind people, and institutions to it's dark underbelly.
I think that it has solidified the battle lines, so to speak, in the upcoming war of the minds over the future of this planet.
Ateyo te syaksyuk and I moved out to the county in Texas with, by far, the lowest population density. Purely rural, consisting of very spread out farms and ranches that are measured not in acres, but in sections.
Seven years after we moved out here in 2003, it was discovered that there are Rare Earth deposits under three of the mountains in Hudspeth County. two of them within thirty miles of our place.
There is this desert lizard that is indigenous to this area that has been declared endangered, that will shut down a lot of oil drilling in the several hundred square mile area that we live in the middle of, but will likely not even slow down the exploratory drilling at the base of those mountains because of the magic six words, "In the Interest of National Security".
We will see what happens, but as the quality of life, and environmental purity of this county goes straight into the toilet, the land values will go right through the ceiling. When we lose all the legal challenges that we can mount
against the firms that can smell the many millions that can be made ripping the earth open, (The only REALISTIC "war" we can make on "the company"), and Eywa does not come to our aid, the two of us will sell our 80 acres with it's private airstrip for a bunch of money, get a large sailboat, and sail it down to one of the largely uninhabited island Archipelagos, and SHOOT ANYONE who comws within gun scope equipped range of our boat.
Moderators are welcome to cross post this if they wish.
Niri Te

Take me with you

Alan 12-19-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheIknimaya (Post 165512)
Hello everyone, I haven't posted here since May 29th of this year although I've been lurking here almost every day, I just never got around to posting.

I'm also wearing my Avatar T-Shirt as well. :)

Oel Ngati Kameie Aysmukan si Aysmuké.

Kaltxi TheIknimaya :nhi: Great to see you around again. Don't be a stranger. You could always meet everyone in Seattle next year ;)

I'm wearing one of my Avatar T-shirts too! I always seem to these days...well ever since I first got one. I carry 'my' Avatar with me. Help me maintain that tsahaylu that, for me, was made on 22nd December 2009.

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Originally Posted by misstammie (Post 165516)
HAPPY AVATAR DAY EVERYONE!! ...

Hope everyone had a beautiful day and thank you all for the fantastic friendships and the love you have shown me. Oel ngati kameie. Irayo ma ayeylan. :):kiss:;)

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Kaltxi Miss Tammy :hi: Irayo ma tsmuke fpi nga ti'eylan. Oel ngati kameie...in seattle ;)

That picture says it all, doesn't it....

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Originally Posted by apache_blanca (Post 165543)
I was reading the posts & thinking: "Yes, yes... I feel this way, too!" but this pic really clicked me back into "the Avatar feeling". I don't know how to describe it but you, the family, surely know what I mean

the other day I was talking to a relative about "my forum" , the upcoming 2012 Uniting The Clans meetup, Our Only Home video... she said: "Wow, this movie seems to have really changed the world!"

Well... yeah! it changed us - we are part of the world - so hell yeah, it did change the world! Way to go

Kaltxi Apache ma tsmuke. :hi: Yeah, we all know what you mean.

For many of us it was a shock to the system, but we have all taken that feeling and evolved to open up to how things could...should be. Our friendships, that have been cemented in places like this, I hope will last a life time. I also hope that we can all truely make a difference in our own little way to leaving our home in a better state than how it was handed to us by those before. It is a challenge we can not brush aside...

Eyway ngahu ma eylan,

Alan

apache_blanca 12-20-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by taylorcraftbc65 (Post 165546)
... Has the movie CHANGED that much? I don't think so, what it HAS done though, is brought more folks to the realization of how badly unbridled greed can blind people, and institutions to it's dark underbelly. ...

^^^^I meant this sort of change: the consciousness, the awareness, the seeing sort of change. Not that Avatar changed me - but it made me See things more clearly, in some way it "put me more in touch with myself" so to speak. It's like having a 40 KW lightbulb in the garage, and Avatar comes and puts a 100 kW bulb - everything is what it was, nothing is added or removed, but one sees it now so much better - everything, the cobwebs, the dust, some bats & bugs maybe ("oh sh**) - but also one can see a bicycle one forgot existed because it was always half-dark in the garage, or maybe one shall even discover a treasure chest. Or something.

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 165564)
...For many of us it was a shock to the system, but we have all taken that feeling and evolved to open up to how things could...should be. ...I also hope that we can all truely make a difference in our own little way to leaving our home in a better state than how it was handed to us by those before. It is a challenge we can not brush aside...

I'd say not only "make a difference in our own little way" but "within our possibilities, responsibilities, and arm's reach" - & here we can think of many things. Some people can do little changes in everyday life like in OOH video - but some (from 9 countries) "reached their arms out" to create it, like you. It's a whole new level. "My arm" reached to make the subtitles & start sending the link around to "all God" like they say here in Spain - & people get interested. Niri Te will battle for the cause worth fighting for as much & as long as possible - & then do something else "within an arm's reach". Some NGO's arms are even longer. Or, imagine a politician sees Avatar, gets a shock to the system, "starts seeing" & introduces a green-minded law, like reducing CO2 emissions or something. I know it sounds like wishful thinking ("you can say I'm a dreamer" :P), but, really, one can do as much as one can do - & this "can do" vary from person to person(s). "Instead of cursing the darkness, let's each light a lamp".

Aquaplant 12-20-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 165564)
I also hope that we can all truely make a difference in our own little way to leaving our home in a better state than how it was handed to us by those before. It is a challenge we can not brush aside...

The thing with this one is that most of the problems we face now, are the result of short-sighted behaviour of previous generations, but also due to the fact how the whole system of finance is about to come crashing down due to its inherent flaws, and is in danger of taking too much stuff with it as it goes. Like it's not bad enough that we received a broken train, but one which doesn't even have any brakes and we are headed off a cliff. And the sad thing is that I think I'd rather go with the train when it reaches the cliff than stay behind and struggle.

Alan 12-20-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by apache_blanca (Post 165613)
^^^^I meant this sort of change: the consciousness, the awareness, the seeing sort of change. Not that Avatar changed me - but it made me See things more clearly, in some way it "put me more in touch with myself" so to speak. It's like having a 40 KW lightbulb in the garage, and Avatar comes and puts a 100 kW bulb - everything is what it was, nothing is added or removed, but one sees it now so much better - everything, the cobwebs, the dust, some bats & bugs maybe ("oh sh**) - but also one can see a bicycle one forgot existed because it was always half-dark in the garage, or maybe one shall even discover a treasure chest. Or something.

Hehehe. I know what you mean. I recall Sempu saying something similar a while back. It is like the 'wattage' has been been turned up and is shining brightly. We can now see properly. The only downside is that it is not always pleasant what we end up seeing.

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Originally Posted by apache_blanca (Post 165613)
I'd say not only "make a difference in our own little way" but "within our possibilities, responsibilities, and arm's reach" - & here we can think of many things. Some people can do little changes in everyday life like in OOH video - but some (from 9 countries) "reached their arms out" to create it, like you. It's a whole new level. "My arm" reached to make the subtitles & start sending the link around to "all God" like they say here in Spain - & people get interested. Niri Te will battle for the cause worth fighting for as much & as long as possible - & then do something else "within an arm's reach". Some NGO's arms are even longer. Or, imagine a politician sees Avatar, gets a shock to the system, "starts seeing" & introduces a green-minded law, like reducing CO2 emissions or something. I know it sounds like wishful thinking ("you can say I'm a dreamer" :P), but, really, one can do as much as one can do - & this "can do" vary from person to person(s). "Instead of cursing the darkness, let's each light a lamp".

You're right Apache. It is a range from doing little things to reaching that bit further. Maybe little things we can do ourselves, possibly the odd reach here and there. But together....that's a potent mix!

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Originally Posted by Aquaplant (Post 165615)
The thing with this one is that most of the problems we face now, are the result of short-sighted behaviour of previous generations, but also due to the fact how the whole system of finance is about to come crashing down due to its inherent flaws, and is in danger of taking too much stuff with it as it goes. Like it's not bad enough that we received a broken train, but one which doesn't even have any breaks and we are headed off a cliff. And the sad thing is that I think I'd rather go with the train when it reaches the cliff than stay behind and struggle.

I see your point. The thing is I guess money is a good servant, but a bad master. It seems it has been the master for too long. People have placed too much trust in it. The thing is, because it is something that us humans have created, it has flaws in it, which we are now finding out.

The trick is to use this as an opportunity to change, to see things through new eyes. Maybe this is the tipping point where things can turn the corner to a better way?

Aquaplant, don't get on that 'train' and miss the potential to make this a better place and say 'I did that... I know what the right way was and others are playing catch up'.

Alan

Aquaplant 12-20-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 165637)
Aquaplant, don't get on that 'train' and miss the potential to make this a better place and say 'I did that... I know what the right way was and others are playing catch up'.

The thing is that I don't want go the right way, because that is not a place for the likes of me. I'm one of those people who hated the movie WALL-E, especially the ending. I'm not willing to give up my comforts when everything fails, so I'd rather take my own way out when that happens.

Human No More 12-21-2011 12:14 AM

I watched the original cut on the anniversary... It was the first time I had watched it since I got the CE, it was actually interestingly different.

I like the original opening much more, but the missing scenes seem really jarring to me now. It was still a good viewing though :)

The Man in Black 12-21-2011 03:03 AM

Can't believe it's been this long. I'll be around a little more hopefully! :)


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