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TxonTirea 03-23-2010 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan (Post 8839)
I feel exactly the same way HNM. Truly, oél ngáti kámeie ma tsmukan.

Sometimes, you just have to admit to yourself that something isn't for you. Maybe in this case, that thing is the university route. I myself have been through this exact same situation. For me, it led to me completely reconsidering my options, keeping things open-ended and taking a different path. The path is not necessarily as clear cut as first seems, there are still a lot of various routes you can take...

As for finding a partner, I too ache for the love of another, but i'm willing to wait that little bit longer for a true love rather than some throw-away relationship. That may be difficult to find in today's society and you may call me old fashioned but this lonliness is something i'm prepared to endure.

As for now, try as best you can to get through, savour the little things and remember, you always have us for support.

Always.

Quoted for truth, you said everything I wanted to say. Were here for you HNM, you gave us somewhere to go with ToS. Time we repayed you.

Human No More 03-23-2010 11:39 PM

Thanks so much for all your kind words :)

Sight Unseen 03-24-2010 12:47 AM

Sometimes, it just all hits home like a ton of bricks. I'll be fine, and then, I'm on my knees. I look up at the sky and think to myself, "Somewhere, Pandora." Seeing Avatar gives me back my deadened sense of objectivity. I look at my life, the people around me going about their day, the people passing by on the road, and I realize that my life is garbage. It's the vicious cycle study, school repeat. All for the CHANCE to work my a$$ off later to make a few slips of green paper. We humans have lost our sense of reality, identity. It's so sad. I just want to cast off my worries and concerns to join Neytiri and Jake in the stars. Pandora exists for me, deep in my heart. To be torn away from this causes my depression. The weight of Society crushing down. I just want to go up to people sometimes who are babbling about the latest fashion or something trivial, and shake them, yell "Don't you get it! That is meaningless!"

You shouldn't let the false cares of the world get you down. Mo matter what happens, remember, Pandora exists, in your mind, in your heart, in your actions. Live Na'vi.

It's okay, we're all friends here. We're there for you. *hug*

Wanderling 03-24-2010 12:57 AM

I see you ma tsmukan. Truly. I have felt the same way so many times in my life, for years at a time sometimes. I wish I had some advice, but everyone one else has said it better than I could. :) So I'll just say again, you are not alone and never will be. Even though we're so far apart, we're still here for you, anytime and every time life gets hard. Good friends will soar with you when you're flying, and carry you when you haven't a leg to stand on. :)

TxonTirea 03-24-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sight Unseen (Post 8896)
Sometimes, it just all hits home like a ton of bricks. I'll be fine, and then, I'm on my knees. I look up at the sky and think to myself, "Somewhere, Pandora." Seeing Avatar gives me back my deadened sense of objectivity. I look at my life, the people around me going about their day, the people passing by on the road, and I realize that my life is garbage. It's the vicious cycle study, school repeat. All for the CHANCE to work my a$$ off later to make a few slips of green paper. We humans have lost our sense of reality, identity. It's so sad. I just want to cast off my worries and concerns to join Neytiri and Jake in the stars. Pandora exists for me, deep in my heart. To be torn away from this causes my depression. The weight of Society crushing down. I just want to go up to people sometimes who are babbling about the latest fashion or something trivial, and shake them, yell "Don't you get it! That is meaningless!"

You shouldn't let the false cares of the world get you down. Mo matter what happens, remember, Pandora exists, in your mind, in your heart, in your actions. Live Na'vi.

It's okay, we're all friends here. We're there for you. *hug*

Quoted for 100% truth, I feel exactly as you do. Oel ngati kameie ma tsmukan.

Tanhě 03-24-2010 02:47 AM

You are not alone, ma tsmukan. I have often felt the same way as you have.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
There are just some times like today when I really feel I can't do anything. I have absolutely no clue where I'm going in life, I'm at university at the moment but since Avatar, I am completely changed. I really don't want to spend the rest of my life stuck in endlessly working. Really, I don't know WHAT I want to do, at all.

Whenever I stop doing anything, even for a second, my mind drifts back to Pandora, I just can't do anything because I keep realising it's all pointless. If I was on Pandora I wouldn't need to worry about anything any more. I'd be free. I want to here but I don't see how it's possible, since everything is so dominated by work and money.

I am having the same issues. Right now I am supposed to be writing a research paper for my English class on a possible career choice. I honestly cannot come up with a career. I don't know what I want to do. It all seems so pointless. No matter what I choose, I will work at a job I probably won't like until I die (or retire, if I am very lucky). And for what? Nothing. It's pointless.

I try to distract myself (usually with homework, which doesn't work) from Avatar-related thoughts, as they usually lead to depression. I often think about how much better life would be on Pandora, which of course makes me want to do nothing but sit around and daydream all day. I am having some serious motivation problems because of this. Not fun.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
I used to think PAD would fade, but it hasn't. If anything, it's getting stronger, and I only ever really felt worse right at the start, when I wasn't even sure of the cause. I'm always thinking of Pandora, of the Na'vi, of how I would rather be flying on an Ikran, or walking through the bioluminescence at night, or just with other Na'vi.

Definitely. My P.A.D. comes in waves. I can distract myself from really thinking about Pandora, the Na'vi, their way of life, etc. for a while (a day ot two, at the most). And while I'm distracted, life is okay. For the most part, I can focus, and get things done. I still think about Avatar, but they are mostly frivolous thoughts ("Look how pretty Neytiri is," "I wonder what color ikrans come in" etc.) But all it takes is one deep thought and I'm launched back into P.A.D. for a couple days.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
I really long for something like the Na'vi have, a real sense of belonging. They have such happiness, something humans never have, just from each other. Humans all ignore each other, only ever focusing on their own lives.
I guess I'm really lonely too, Neytiri made me See that. I never used to think about this at all, but now I realize just how much I want someone who Sees me, someone who I can really be with for the rest of my life. Of course, I still have the problem that I just don't find humans interesting compared to Na'vi, but even past that, I want the right person for me and I wouldn't really mind.

This is the biggest issue for me. Seeing Avatar made me realize just how separated I am from my friends. I try to become closer to some of my friends, but I realize I have little in common with them after being changed by Avatar. I want to bring some of the Na'vi closeness into my relationships, but it is difficult if not impossible with the people around me.

I am lonely. I want to find someone who Sees, someone who could understands what P.A.D. is like. Just to be able to talk face-to-face with someone like that would help the loneliness tremendously.

What I would absolutely love would be to meet everyone here on the forums in real life. You all are amazing, kind, understanding people. You know me better than most of my friends do. You guys feel like a second family to me.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
I'd still much rather be Na'vi, if I had a chance to drop everything right now and become Na'vi, I would without hesitation. I just want to go to Pandora, personally, I think it DOES exists - SOMEWHERE, after all, the universe is big enough. But being unable to reach it just makes me feel so depressed.

I felt this way right after seeing the movie. I felt like Pandora was out there, but it was just out of my reach. And that hurts. The only way I have been able to get rid of that pain is to tell myself that Pandora doesn't exist, and it never will. The only thing we have is Earth, so we should try to make the best of it. Probably not the best way to deal with that, but it works.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
Anyway, thanks for reading all this, sorry if it's really long, I just started writing what I feel and it kept going. Just wanted to explain what's going on with me right now, hopefully people will See :'(

Don't apologize. It's good to let it all out. Remember, we're here for you. Oel ngati kameie, ma tsmukan.

Tudhalyas 03-24-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
There are just some times like today when I really feel I can't do anything. I have absolutely no clue where I'm going in life, I'm at university at the moment but since Avatar, I am completely changed. I really don't want to spend the rest of my life stuck in endlessly working. Really, I don't know WHAT I want to do, at all.

Whenever I stop doing anything, even for a second, my mind drifts back to Pandora, I just can't do anything because I keep realising it's all pointless. If I was on Pandora I wouldn't need to worry about anything any more. I'd be free. I want to here but I don't see how it's possible, since everything is so dominated by work and money.

So much of what I do is Avatar now, reading these forums, listening to the OST, watching Avatar more times than I can really afford, playing the Avatar game, even just thinking of Pandora.

I used to think PAD would fade, but it hasn't. If anything, it's getting stronger, and I only ever really felt worse right at the start, when I wasn't even sure of the cause. I'm always thinking of Pandora, of the Na'vi, of how I would rather be flying on an Ikran, or walking through the bioluminescence at night, or just with other Na'vi.

Oel ngati kameie, ma tsmukan.
I can understand you how you feel right now because I'm proving the same emotions as you. PAD is a bad beast, because it makes you realize and See how evil and blind humanity can be.
This for me is a gift, because it made me a better person, it made me discover a part of myself that I never thought I had. It changed - for the better - many views I had on myself, on the world and on humanity.

Pandora and the Na'vi are, at least for now, a Dream... but we can use this Dream as an encouragment to do something beautiful here on our Earth, I truly believe that we can make a difference. That's why I want to keep on studying at university: to help making our planet a better place for us all.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
I really long for something like the Na'vi have, a real sense of belonging. They have such happiness, something humans never have, just from each other. Humans all ignore each other, only ever focusing on their own lives.
I guess I'm really lonely too, Neytiri made me See that. I never used to think about this at all, but now I realise just how much I want someone who Sees me, someone who I can really be with for the rest of my life. Of course, I still have the problem that I just don't find humans interesting compared to Na'vi, but even past that, I want the right person for me and I wouldn't really mind.

That part of the movie really stunned me as well. I was amazed on how the Na'vi relate to each other, and how the Omaticaya people accepted Jake in the clan even if they knew that he was a bloody tawtute.

it's something that we probably won't ever see on Earth. :(

But, in any case.... YOU ARE NOT ALONE. We're far from each other, we can have very different cultural backgrounds but we felt the same way about Avatar's message. This place is so amazing for me because we can talk openly about almost any topic (not just about Avatar) with the knowledge that we will be able to discuss in a productive and peaceful way.
This is a thing that I've never seen or felt in any other place, both in RL and on the Internet, and this is why I LOVE this place and all of you guys.

This is our Na'vi clan, our Na'vi family.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 8592)
I'd still much rather be Na'vi, if I had a chance to drop everything right now and become Na'vi, I would without hesitation. I just want to go to Pandora, personally, I think it DOES exists - SOMEWHERE, after all, the universe is big enough. But being unable to reach it just makes me feel so depressed.

I really didn't expect anything from Avatar, I just thought it'd just be a film, one with good visuals and a nice idea maybe, but just a film. I really didn't expect it to show me my life and what was wrong. Now I think back, I've never really been happy, I just thought I was because it was better than my previous situation. Now I have it all in context, I realise how much was missing.

As Jake said, "It's hard to believe it's only been 3 months. I can barely remember my old life. I don't know who I am any more."

Anyway, thanks for reading all this, sorry if it's really long, I just started writing what I feel and it kept going. Just wanted to explain what's going on with me right now, hopefully people will See :'(

Avatar is not "just another science-fiction" movie. It's a wakeup call, and I'm glad we all heeded it here.

I'll be always at your side, brother.

Human No More 03-24-2010 09:24 AM

Irayo, ma tsmukan si ma tsmuke :)

This thread was the first thing I thought of when I woke up this morning, I just had to check for new posts here. You all make me so happy. I always knew there were other people, but it still helps a lot to know that people feel the same as me.

I've already used Avatar as inspiration for changes in my life, even just small things, if more people did, it would have a real impact. I still just don't feel happy on Earth though, and the loneliness... I spend literally hours some days finding new images of Neytiri, discussing her beauty, or just sitting there thinking about her. I'm truly in love with her, but I also just wish I could find my Neytiri in my life, someone who we can See each other.

I feel so happy to just be able to talk again, with people who understand and sympathise. Something tells me you couldn't have a thread like this on AF any more...

Really make me wonder what's possible, maybe one day we'll all meet on the ship to Pandora...

When writing this post, I started thinking of this song, it really helps in times like this, I think. Don't judge based on who it is :P, listen to it, you'll probably be surprised.





Though we're far away
The stars above are the same
And when you feel alone
There's one who shares your pain

TxonTirea 03-24-2010 09:41 AM

Nice song, I will be there on that Ship, and the Avatar 2 Premiere! :D Hope your feeling better HNM, We need MAOR Neytiri Worship!

Tudhalyas 03-24-2010 10:57 AM

I loved the song as well, HNM! ;) Thanks for posting it!

Fkeu'itan 03-24-2010 11:06 AM

Yes it was quite a nice song HNM, thanks for sharing.

TxonTirea 03-24-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan (Post 9051)
Yes it was quite a nice song HNM, thanks for sharing.

I downloaded it, its great :D

Wanderling 03-24-2010 11:27 PM

Awesome song, thank you for sharing it HNM!

rapunzel77 03-24-2010 11:47 PM

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This thread was the first thing I thought of when I woke up this morning, I just had to check for new posts here. You all make me so happy. I always knew there were other people, but it still helps a lot to know that people feel the same as me.
HNM, I'm happy to know that we have helped :)

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I've already used Avatar as inspiration for changes in my life, even just small things, if more people did, it would have a real impact.
Very good :)

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I still just don't feel happy on Earth though, and the loneliness... I spend literally hours some days finding new images of Neytiri, discussing her beauty, or just sitting there thinking about her. I'm truly in love with her, but I also just wish I could find my Neytiri in my life, someone who we can See each other.
Don't look to hard. She will come when you least expect it.

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I feel so happy to just be able to talk again, with people who understand and sympathise. Something tells me you couldn't have a thread like this on AF any more...
I know, its a shame. I'm glad that we have the camaraderie back.



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When writing this post, I started thinking of this song, it really helps in times like this, I think. Don't judge based on who it is :P, listen to it, you'll probably be surprised.
HNM, wow, what can I say? What a beautiful song. I never heard of Man o' War. I'm more familiar with other heavy metal bands like Metallica, Guns n' Roses, Megadeath, etc (nb: I am not going to mention fake ones like Poison or Warrant, etc).

The lyrics remind me of another song that is very special to me. Its called Bridge over Troubled Water by Simon and Garfunkel. I hope you like it :).






Sight Unseen 03-27-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 9014)
You all make me so happy. I always knew there were other people, but it still helps a lot to know that people feel the same as me.

Couldn't have said it better.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 9014)
I still just don't feel happy on Earth though, and the loneliness... I spend literally hours some days finding new images of Neytiri, discussing her beauty, or just sitting there thinking about her. I'm truly in love with her, but I also just wish I could find my Neytiri in my life, someone who we can See each other.

Oel ngati kame. Love, even unrealized, is better than a cold heart. Neytiri's out there somewhere. True love knows no boundaries, stellar distance or time.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 9014)
I feel so happy to just be able to talk again, with people who understand and sympathise. Something tells me you couldn't have a thread like this on AF any more...

We'll always be here. A group of people together for the right thing is a force to be reckoned with.

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Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 9014)
Really make me wonder what's possible, maybe one day we'll all meet on the ship to Pandora...

I'll be there. Society be damned.

Staring life through eyes of mine, the hate the fear and the pain; there's a feeling held deep inside, when the life you live is in vain.


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