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EywaBlessMe 06-19-2012 06:47 PM

Microsoft tablet will bomb
 
You heard it here first.
This has everything to do with the fact that MS is an imitator, not an innovator; everything they have done for 25 years is copy what Apple did 3 years prior.
Now, that was okay when all the made was software. Ninety percent of all peecees ran winblows, so their money stream was secure. But Apple innovates, sees the market 5 years forward, and is always ahead of the curve.
They predicted the mp3 player, and flatfooted MS responded with the zune, better know as a punchline.
Apple predicted the smartphone, and MS is just now making a serious effort to enter that market, and their best attempt has received tepid reviews.
And Apple largely created the new tablet market, selling every one they can make; they literally cannot meet demand. But the iPad is an outgrowth of the smartphone, and for MS, with no footprint there, they are jumping in hoping they can swim.
However, HP tried the same thing with their tablet, and it went over like a led balloon. They ended up just dumping it.
Obviously, with desktop sales slumping ever more sharply, and ever full size laptop sales slipping, MS must try something.
But I don't expect much.

Exoblade 06-19-2012 07:30 PM

The real issue of the new Windows tablet/ Windows 8 system is going to be whether or not users will cope with the radical shift in the interface with the floating blocks. From what I've read many reviewers had issues going things with a mouse that felt like they should be on a touch screen.

In other words, Microsoft's gamble that the desktop will die out by going for a heavy tablet focus many end up alienating its main user bases, home users and businesses.

Human No More 06-19-2012 09:11 PM

Microsoft invented the tablet.

The upcoming Microsoft failure is Windows 8. It's an average to bad tablet/phone OS, but completely useless for a real computer.

Apple caught the industry short with the iphone, yes, but it's a joke these days, Android is outselling it by orders of magnitude; apple is mainly kept afloat by brand loyalty.

PS. Overuse of huge dark green letters make your post really difficult to read.

PPS. Macs are a type of PC (Personal Computer), just a broken and locked-down one, so you just insulted your own idol there.

Stanley_9875 06-20-2012 02:40 AM

I haz android :3

iron_jones 06-20-2012 03:09 AM

Thank God I only bothered reading 7 words of this.
Microsoft invented the tablet, and I'm pretty sure the touch screen was a Microsoft creation, as well.

What I find amusing is that it's so easy to tell that you're obviously just an Apple fan-boy who's upset that people don't use your superior Apple technology.

Helicoradian 06-20-2012 04:01 AM

Windows 8 will just make people stick with Win 7 for the next decade or so like they did with XP. Funny though, as it's exactly what Microsoft wanted to avoid happening.

Sėkat 06-20-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe (Post 174096)
Apple predicted the smartphone, and MS is just now making a serious effort to enter that market, and their best attempt has received tepid reviews.

Equally telling, I think, is the fact that Microsoft basically paid Nokia US$1 billion to dump Symbian for Windows Phone.

Will Microsoft's tablet bomb? If past experience & history is any indicator, if it does bomb I think we'll start seeing Microsoft throwing cash around to increase market share, quite possibly to the point of a Nokia-style payoff to manufacturers and developers. Will such a payoff work? Only time will tell.

I don't give a damn if it bombs or not, personally. I use what works for me, and I'm not unwilling to change if either Apple or Microsoft go too far with the lockdowns and the back-doors -- and the way things are doing I expect I'll be doing so fairly soon.

Human No More 06-20-2012 11:43 PM

It all depends on Windows 9. If it drops the attempt at Metro rubbish (remember Microsoft Bob, anyone?) for an option to have a real copmputer, I think it's recoverable for Microsoft. If not, we could very well see Linux gain a huge new market of admins, power users, gamers and anyone else who uses more than one thing at once.

Windows 8 is a mediocre tablet OS, and I'm fine with that on its own as it doesn't affect me. I think tablets are a useless gimmick, but even if I wanted one, I wouldn't use it as Android is orders of magnitude better. However, I recognise that it fills that niche for some people. What I object to is forcing it onto the desktop in the misguided belief that that will somehow improve market share rather than just alienate people.

Fosus 06-24-2012 12:15 AM

I've never really understood people who want to use windows in their cellphones or tablets. IMO Android isn't exactly good but windows is still way worse. :/

Niri Te 06-24-2012 01:31 AM

If by "Tablet" you mean all Touch pads, then I would say that I like touch pads, because out here in the west Texas Desert, with it's talcum powder fine sand that gets into almost everything, the dust can NOT make it's way into the computer's innards by way of a keypad, as there IS NONE. This isn't just a "West Texas" thing, it is the same in southern New Mexico, Southern Arizona, and the south east California Desert, which is a LOT more people than just "Crazy Niri Te". I am getting an Apple iPad on the 29th, for many reasons, but the biggest is that my three year old 3G iPhone, (I got it the month after they came out) STILL works perfectly, I would just like a larger screen for my fat fingers. I also like the idea that it does NOT use the windows OS.
Niri Te

fierox 06-24-2012 12:48 PM

If the Surface Pro has a good pen digitiser my ipad2 is going out.
For desktops/laptops i think microsoft is a good 5 years to early with windows 8 and people will stick with win7 for it.
For devices like this i have high hopes running windows 8. Photoshop on a tablet, perhaps even more, great! :D

Human No More 06-24-2012 04:24 PM

"5 years too early" implies it's a good idea. It isn't. It's an attempt at a tablet that's worse than Android and even than the iPad, and MS somehow believe that forcing the exact same UI onto real computers will gain them market share rather than just alienate anyone who uses a computer for more than facebook, email and youtube.

Niri Te 06-24-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 174266)
"5 years too early" implies it's a good idea. It isn't. It's an attempt at a tablet that's worse than Android and even than the iPad, and MS somehow believe that forcing the exact same UI onto real computers will gain them market share rather than just alienate anyone who uses a computer for more than facebook, email and youtube.

Well you got two out of the three reasons that I use a computer. All that I am interested in are Facebook, Email, and the various Forums, (the Avatar sites, and Yahoo Groups). That's all that I need to make me happy with a computer.
Niri Te

Isard 07-02-2012 08:59 PM

That hurt to read in more ways than one.

JayWalker 07-04-2012 06:53 PM

I stopped reading at "This has everything to do with the fact that MS is an imitator, not an innovator; everything they have done for 25 years is copy what Apple did 3 years prior."

Do you know where the GUI of the original Mac came from? Apple stole it from Xerox, and so did M$. Get your history straight. Apple has not "innovated" anything. Smartphones? Yeah, Palm came up with that one. First mp3 player was available in 1997. First iPod? 2001. Yep, they sure "predicted" that one.

If you're going to be an obviously biased and uneducated fanboy, do it somewhere else.

iron_jones 07-04-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Isard (Post 174459)
That hurt to read in more ways than one.

And how.

But hey, the text is all Avatary and stuff.

Isard 07-04-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iron_jones (Post 174528)
And how.

But hey, the text is all Avatary and stuff.


At least it wasn't papyrus.

EywaBlessMe 07-13-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayWalker (Post 174525)

If you're going to be an obviously biased and uneducated fanboy, do it somewhere else.

Fanboy? Yes. Uneducated? Hardly

Yes I know that Apple got their inspiration from others, but BE HONEST. Any mp3 player in an iPod. Am I right? Who created the market, and then used that market to open iTunes? Yes Xerox may have invented the GUI, but didn't do anything with it, and now teeters near bankruptcy. Palm may have invented the smartphone, but is gone. Apple is the most valuable company in the world. All smartphones are iPhones, and all tablets are iPads. All of the other companies wait to see Apple prove a market for some clever idea, then jump in with cheap imitations.

Niri Te 07-13-2012 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe (Post 174694)
Fanboy? Yes. Uneducated? Hardly

Yes I know that Apple got their inspiration from others, but BE HONEST. Any mp3 player in an iPod. Am I right? Who created the market, and then used that market to open iTunes? Yes Xerox may have invented the GUI, but didn't do anything with it, and now teeters near bankruptcy. Palm may have invented the smartphone, but is gone. Apple is the most valuable company in the world. All smartphones are iPhones, and all tablets are iPads. All of the other companies wait to see Apple prove a market for some clever idea, then jump in with cheap imitations.

All that may be true, there are MANY people out here that have not much money, and so for THEM, the "Cheap Imitations" will be the best that they can hope for. If ma oeya lora Yawnetu and I change our priorities, we could afford the 500 dollar apiece and up iPads, but we prefer our antique aircraft, and paying cash as we go, building our Hanger Home. We are the lucky ones, for US it is a CHOICE, now imagine the divorced mother of two with two minimum wage jobs, and no credit. If she is LUCKY, she can scrape together the money over six months to get hooked to the net for certain necessities that used to be available offline that no longer are. I realize the above is an extreme case, but there ARE such people, and for them, the "Cheap Imitations" are a Godsend. There is a definite need for them in today's economy.
Niri Te

iron_jones 07-13-2012 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe (Post 174694)
Fanboy? Yes. Uneducated? Hardly

Yes I know that Apple got their inspiration from others, but BE HONEST. Any mp3 player in an iPod. Am I right? Who created the market, and then used that market to open iTunes? Yes Xerox may have invented the GUI, but didn't do anything with it, and now teeters near bankruptcy. Palm may have invented the smartphone, but is gone. Apple is the most valuable company in the world. All smartphones are iPhones, and all tablets are iPads. All of the other companies wait to see Apple prove a market for some clever idea, then jump in with cheap imitations.

So... not uneducated. VERY uneducated.

Have fun with your overpriced plastic.

iron_jones 07-13-2012 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niri Te (Post 174695)
All that may be true, there are MANY people out here that have not much money, and so for THEM, the "Cheap Imitations" will be the best that they can hope for. If ma oeya lora Yawnetu and I changes our priorities, we could afford the 500 dollar apiece and up iPads, but we prefer our antique aircraft, and paying cash as we go, building our Hanger Home. We are the lucky ones, for US it is a CHOICE, now imagine the divorced mother of two with two minimum wage jobs, and no credit. If she is LUCKY, she can scrape together the money over six months to get hooked to the net for certain necessities that used to be available offline that no longer are. I realize the above is an extreme case, but there ARE such people, and for them, the "Cheap Imitations" are a Godsend. There is a definite need for them in today's economy.
Niri Te

Anyone who's willing to spend $500 on an iPad needs help.

Isard 07-13-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe (Post 174694)
Fanboy? Yes. Uneducated? Hardly

Yes I know that Apple got their inspiration from others, but BE HONEST. Any mp3 player in an iPod. Am I right? Who created the market, and then used that market to open iTunes? Yes Xerox may have invented the GUI, but didn't do anything with it, and now teeters near bankruptcy. Palm may have invented the smartphone, but is gone. Apple is the most valuable company in the world. All smartphones are iPhones, and all tablets are iPads. All of the other companies wait to see Apple prove a market for some clever idea, then jump in with cheap imitations.


Iphones are archaic, overpriced, have two ****ty carriers, and holds a charge as well as a piece of wool.

Ipads are over priced, can't play flash, and beyond that perform the exact same tasks as an iphone, except for the phone part. And they cost more.


Terrible company. Terrible and overpriced products. Amazing marketing team that could probably convince the world that shooting themselves in the head provides healthy cranial ventilation.

Fighter-of-Wars 07-14-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isard (Post 174704)
Amazing marketing team that could probably convince the world that shooting themselves in the head provides healthy cranial ventilation.

End thread.

Isard 07-16-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighter-of-Wars (Post 174716)
End thread.



No, this is the final kick to the kidney while Apple's down.








Niri Te 07-16-2012 09:48 PM

That looks like Ney'tiri just put a poison arrowhead through the heart of the iPads Chief of Design.
Niri Te

EywaBlessMe 07-17-2012 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_jones (Post 174700)
So... not uneducated. VERY uneducated.

Have fun with your overpriced plastic.

HATERZ GONNA HATE
Funny, you talk about my bias, yet ignore your own. Hypocrite. And insult me as uneducated. Physician, heal thyself.
Since you and I both own computers, I'm sure we share many of the same problems, like having to weekly update our anti-virus software... oh wait, no I don't.
Ans of course we both have the problems of some hinky bit of software causing windows to hang, forcing a quit, and a reboot... oh wait, no I don't.
And eventually, as all peecees do, it will eventually collapse into a fatal blue screen of death, and die...oh wait, not it won't.
Ever.

So just continue to dog the most valued company in the world, the one who can't get any more of the tablet market, because they literally cannot make any more fast enough.
I'm sure they heard your every word.

iron_jones 07-17-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe (Post 174789)
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HATERZ GONNA HATE
Funny, you talk about my bias, yet ignore your own. Hypocrite. And insult me as uneducated. Physician, heal thyself.
Since you and I both own computers, I'm sure we share many of the same problems, like having to weekly update our anti-virus software... oh wait, no I don't.
Ans of course we both have the problems of some hinky bit of software causing windows to hang, forcing a quit, and a reboot... oh wait, no I don't.
And eventually, as all peecees do, it will eventually collapse into a fatal blue screen of death, and die...oh wait, not it won't.
Ever.

So just continue to dog the most valued company in the world, the one who can't get any more of the tablet market, because they literally cannot make any more fast enough.
I'm sure they heard your every word.

I never called you uneducated.

You like to get pretty dramatic about this stuff, eh?

Isard 07-17-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe (Post 174789)
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HATERZ GONNA HATE
Funny, you talk about my bias, yet ignore your own. Hypocrite. And insult me as uneducated. Physician, heal thyself.
Since you and I both own computers, I'm sure we share many of the same problems, like having to weekly update our anti-virus software... oh wait, no I don't.
Ans of course we both have the problems of some hinky bit of software causing windows to hang, forcing a quit, and a reboot... oh wait, no I don't.
And eventually, as all peecees do, it will eventually collapse into a fatal blue screen of death, and die...oh wait, not it won't.
Ever.

So just continue to dog the most valued company in the world, the one who can't get any more of the tablet market, because they literally cannot make any more fast enough.
I'm sure they heard your every word.



If you don't keep anti-virus updated you're pretty retarded.


http://mashable.com/2012/06/25/apple...ot-virus-free/

The reason Apple didn't have any viruses was because nobody ****ing used them for years. Now that everybody and their grandmother has been brainwashed into the apple cult, guess what, hackers are now targeting apple users over windows! Because its easier to steal personal data from stupid people! :D



My PC won't collapse into a BSOD, because I can upgrade it! Its not permanently sealed in a ****ing heat trap of a plastic shell like apple products.


GGNORE

Fosus 07-17-2012 08:24 PM

Yay for linux! I can haz no viruses.

Isard 07-17-2012 10:45 PM

http://i.imgur.com/L1O7t.jpg

iron_jones 07-17-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isard (Post 174797)

Awwww shhhheeeeiiiit!

Advent 07-18-2012 11:19 AM

I'm not sure why this keeps going on.

Someone likes Apple, a good number of people don't. I'm really not sure why it matters so much to disprove another's point, particularly in such an aggressive manner. There are, at least in my opinion, more important things than company warfare.

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure the whole message of our beloved movie was to be tolerant of others. People might want to be a bit more mindful of that, but I could be wrong there as well.

iron_jones 07-18-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advent (Post 174812)

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure the whole message of our beloved movie was to be tolerant of others. People might want to be a bit more mindful of that, but I could be wrong there as well.

I thought it was an "environmental message". :party:

Marvellous Chester 07-18-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advent
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure the whole message of our beloved movie was to be tolerant of others. People might want to be a bit more mindful of that, but I could be wrong there as well.

It is.... that is until they start bombing the forest. At that point the message is to stick knives in them :p

Advent 07-18-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_jones (Post 174817)
I thought it was an "environmental message". :party:

Forgive me. Tolerant of others and the environment. Were the RDA tolerant of the Na'vi, the movie wouldn't have happened.

Whatever, nevermind. You can all carry on arguing.

iron_jones 07-18-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advent (Post 174823)
Forgive me. Tolerant of others and the environment. Were the RDA tolerant of the Na'vi, the movie wouldn't have happened.

Whatever, nevermind. You can all carry on arguing.

Chill, bro.

Human No More 07-20-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advent (Post 174812)
I'm not sure why this keeps going on.

Someone likes Apple, a good number of people don't. I'm really not sure why it matters so much to disprove another's point, particularly in such an aggressive manner. There are, at least in my opinion, more important things than company warfare.

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure the whole message of our beloved movie was to be tolerant of others. People might want to be a bit more mindful of that, but I could be wrong there as well.

Enough said. Thank you :)


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