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TireaAean 08-03-2014 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182607)
Plltxe Li'fya hu nga a fė'u lu 'o'
"This thing which is speaking the language with you is fun"

Nice! Really close with the fwa. a fė'u is the same as fwa but fwa only works when you write the sentence in the opposite way as you just did.

'o' lu fwa ngahu Lė'fya plltxe.

But even then, the sentence you wrote means "This thing which is the language speaks with yiu is fun. ;)



--
Srane! Fwa ngahu plltxe fėfya lu 'o'.
Yes! Speaking with you this way is fun!

Oeru lu yawne lė'fya leNa'vi
I love the Na'vi language.

Wind12 08-03-2014 05:36 PM

'rrpxomayrrap fė'u rewon.
" Thunderstorm this morning"
"We had a thunderstorm this morning"

Wind12 08-03-2014 07:00 PM

Omum oel futa, Neytiri nėtxan seven!
"I know that Neytiri is very pretty"

Fula oe zene tėkangkem, 'eykefu oeti nėkeftxo.

TireaAean 08-03-2014 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182610)
'rrpxomayrrap fė'u rewon.
" Thunderstorm this morning"
"We had a thunderstorm this morning"

'u = thing
fė'u = this thing
rewon = morning
fėrewon = this morning

http://tirea.learnnavi.org/posts/2013-03-13-six.html

yrrap is a storm. I'm not sure exactly what kind, but I'm guessing that thunderstorms are probably the most common and maybe this word already means that. (I'm not totally sure about that, but I know that we can't really make Thunderstorm in Na'vi by putting the words together like that.)

Yrrap fėrewon
Storm this morning

Though we know how to say stuff like It's sunny (The sun smiles), the sky is clear (open) The sky is cloudy, the wind runs/walks.. We don't really know the more Na'vi way to say that "There is a storm" or the more colloquial "It's storming" or "we have a storm". So I don't know how exactly to use this word yrrap (storm) outside this offical example:

Frapo ne mėfa! Lerok yrrap apxa!
Everybody inside! A big storm is approaching!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182611)
Omum oel futa, Neytiri nėtxan seven lu!
"I know that Neytiri is very pretty"

Fula oe zene tėkangkem sivi, 'eykefu oeti keftxo.

Awesome! So it looks like the F words are making a lot of sense to you.

Furia Neytiri lu nėtxan sevin, Oe ngahu mllte!
As for this Neytiri is very pretty thing, I agree with you!

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Ngaru ke sunu tėkangkem srak?
You don't like work?

Mėftxele, tėkangkem is the thing, work itself. The work. Tėkangkem si is the action to do work

Tėkangkem krro krro ke lu 'o'
Work sometimes is not fun.

Oe tėkangkem si fratxon.
I work every night. -OR- I do the work every night.

----

:)

*beware the edits*

Wind12 08-05-2014 05:07 AM

Tėkangkeml ke 'eykefu oeti ke lefpom

"work makes me feel not well"
"Work makes me feel stressed"

Irayo Nėtxan, Oe tul fėtrr!

Also can you still say describe a rain as being a thunder rain, or a lightning rain, since there are words for those and "a" is just a short way of using "lu" or is that still considered "making a new word" and taboo? :) Irao for your input
Oeru txoa livu, Oeru lu skxawngri ;) :)

TireaAean 08-05-2014 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182629)
Tėkangkeml ke 'eykefu oeti ke lefpom

"work makes me feel not well"
"Work makes me feel stressed"

Irayo Nėtxan, Oe tul fėtrr!

Also can you still say describe a rain as being a thunder rain, or a lightning rain, since there are words for those and "a" is just a short way of using "lu" or is that still considered "making a new word" and taboo? :) Irayo for your input
Oeru txoa livu, Oeru lu skxawngri ;) :)

:D

remember when Paul said at the meetup class that when you put -l on something, if it ends in a consonant, it needs to be -ėl? Because Eytukanl was awkward to pronounce so it needed to be Eytukanėl. So here we'd say tėkangkemėl.

The closest thing we have to stress at work is this:

Tėkangkemėri oe vrrėn.
I'm tired out and overwhelmed by work.

lefpom and kelfpom aren't really for people. People can have fpom, but only things are peaceful/pleasant or not.

And as for the negation, it's only double for negative nouns. If you use a negative noun for example: ke'u, kawtu, kawkrr, then the you still need ke before the verb. But if you just use a regular noun that isn't one of those and a negative adjective, then nothing special happens, there's no need for ke.

For example:

ke'ul ke 'eykefu poti nitram.
Nothing makes him feel happy.

Tsakemėl 'eykefu poti keftxo
That action makes him unhappy.

and to say "I am a moron", it's the same as saying "I am a <anything>" like I am a warrior, I am a hunter:

Oe lu tsamsiyu
I am a warrior

Lu oe taronyu
I'm a hunter

Oe skxawng lu
I'm a moron

You just drop the words into place (in pretty much any order in this case.)

But I must say..

Nga ke lu skxawng.
You are not a moron.

Nga mi nerumeie
Nga mi n<er>um<ei>e
You still learn-(ongoing)-(I'm happy about that)
"You are still learning :)"

Wind12 08-06-2014 02:26 AM

Irayo nėtxan !! Yes I just was going to fast with the "l" it will take me a bit to pin down the "ke" thing. :) :)

Oel sunu futa Ngaru lu tstunwi. :)

TireaAean 08-06-2014 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182633)
Irayo nėtxan !!

:) Kea tėkin

Quote:

Yes I just was going to fast with the "l"
O okey

Quote:

it will take me a bit to pin down the "ke" thing. :) :)
:) Maybe the best way is by examples.

There are a few over here: Lesson Ten: No and Not - Tirea Aean

Quote:

Oel sunu futa Ngaru lu tstunwi. :)
the verb sunu works like this:

oeru sunu ikran.
to-me is-pleasing banshee.
"I like banshee"

Sunu ngaru yafkeyk.
is-pleasing to-you weather
You like weather.

And for phrases, I'll use your sentence as an example:

Sunu oeru fwa nga lu tstunwi
is-pleasing to-me this: you are kind/nice
"I like that you are nice/kind."

:D

Nga lu tstunwi nėteng!
You are nice too!

Wind12 08-06-2014 09:40 PM

Irayo, Srane, Oel lu futa ngeyä pėlok

"Thank you, Yes, I have your blog (saved)"

TireaAean 08-06-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182640)
Irayo, Srane, Oel lu futa ngeyä pėlok

"Thank you, Yes, I have your blog (saved)"

:D
Remember how to say "I have <something>", from Lesson Three: Have, Plurals, and Sound Changes - Tirea Aean ? ;)

(hint: -l and -t cannot be used with lu)

Wind12 08-06-2014 10:55 PM

Oeru lu futa ngeyä pėlok!

Oeru txoa livu.

Oe nivume lisre 2154 AD!! HRH! :)

TireaAean 08-06-2014 11:22 PM

Oeru lu ngeyä pėlok.

Here's a tip about futa and fwa and the rest of the F words: if all that's coming after futa/fwa/furia/fula is just a noun (like "blog") or noun phrase (like "your blog"), then just delete fwa/fula/futa/furia altogether because it's unnecessary.

*Oeru lu fwa ikran -> Oeru lu ikran.

Also, futa already has the -t ending baked in. Because it's made of: fė'u-t a ;)
So that means futa can't be used with vin. type verbs, only vtr. Usually you see futa with fpėl, omum, new, and the like.:)

Wind12 08-07-2014 07:16 AM

Neytiril kerar oeti pefya taron.
"Neytiri is teaching me how to hunt."

Wind12 08-07-2014 07:22 AM

Furia yrrap lu fėtseng, oe 'efu lefpom. :)

"As for this thing, we had a storm( thunderstorm), I feel happy."

TireaAean 08-07-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182654)
Neytiril kerar oeti pefya taron.
"Neytiri is teaching me how to hunt."

Really close!

Neytiril kerar oeru fya'ot a taron.

tips:

1) kar works like this:

<teacher>-l kar <subject,thing being taught>-ti <student>-ru
"The teacher teaches the subject to the student

or

<teacher> kar <student>-ru
"The teacher teaches the student"

2) we can't use question words in a statement. in Na'vi, the question words like pefya, pesu, 'upe, peseng, etc. are ALWAYS questions whenever they are used. that's because -pe+ is the question marker "what/which". Take that off and you have a noun you can use to describe.

But in many cases, you can use these words like this:

Oel ke omum teyngta pelun po fėtseng zola'u.
"I don't know the answer (to the question,) why did he come here?"

Rutxe, piveng oeru teyngta pefya fko tsakem si
"Please, tell me how that's done" -OR- "Please, tell me the answer to How does one do that?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind12 (Post 182655)
Furia yrrap lu fėtseng, oe 'efu lefpom. :)

"As for this thing, we had a storm( thunderstorm), I feel happy."

:D Seysonėltsan. I think you're looking for nitram (happy) as lefpom (pleasant) is generally not intended to describe people.

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Yrrap wou
Thunderstorms are fascinating.

:)


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